Plan B - page 3

Anyone else think Plan B will get GROSSLY out of hand? I think alot of 18 years old will be running to walmart every sunday nite! Also, cant it hurt a woman' s body if she takes Plan b too many... Read More

  1. by   justpoorfect
    cotjockey and TazziRN: Do you think using emergency contraception twice a year indicates that person is using it as primary BC and it is too much?

    What would be your upper limit for emergency contraception? In a calendar year or a floating 12 month period? :lol_hitti
  2. by   TazziRN
    If a woman needs to use Plan B as emergency contraception twice a year because of a broken condom then she needs to make sure her partner uses a different brand, or she needs to get herself on another form of birth control. Emergency contraception should be used as just that.....emergency. Unless she has the great misfortune of being an assault victim more than once (many apologies to those who have been victims, I'm not trying to be cruel), most women should have few occasions to use emergency contraception.
  3. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Quote from TazziRN
    Mixed feelings. I think it needs to be available to rape victims, and I think that girls who unintentionally get pregnant should have access to it also, but I'm afraid that it will be used as a method of birth control.
    I agree. There will be some people using Plan B as birth control, and not as a back-up emergency for birth control.
  4. by   marilynmom
    I am so thankful to see something like this on the market!

    I am pro-choice, but anything to help reduce abortions, is a fantastic thing!

    for Plan B
  5. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    We used to have a lady who came to the ER at least a couple of times a year seeking emergency contraception.
    We have one of those too.
  6. by   marilynmom
    OK, so what if someone comes in a couple times of year seeking emergency contraception? Do you know her background? The whole situation? Maybe, maybe not.

    Even so, it's better for her to go on to have an abortion possibly or have a child she doesn't want? Or to use something like Plan B to prevent a pregnancy to begin with!

    I'm thankful for emergency contraception. I knew a girl in high school who had had 2 abortions. I'm pro-choice but who wants to see anyone have to go through an abortion? I would rather she have had OTC access to something like Plan B than to keep getting pregnant and having abortions. Her mom or an older friend could have gotten Plan B for her if she was under age.

    There are women who will use something like this all the time, that is their choice, not mine. People make a lot of choices that I wouldn't make for myself. I can live with it.

    That is all I'm going to say about it
  7. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    OK, so what if someone comes in a couple times of year seeking emergency contraception? Do you know her background? The whole situation? Maybe, maybe not.
    The one i'm refering to, w/o giving too much detail, said that the shots made her sick, she was allergic to condoms, you name a BC, she had an excuse/reason not to use it. Asked if she were on any BC, she said no. Never could understand why she supposedly couldn't take BC pills, yet could stand this high dose pill.
  8. by   justpoorfect
    The only reason given for NOT using Plan B as a regular BC method on the manufacturer's site is that it is not as effective as low-dose BC pills would be, so pregnancy risk increases. However, it will not harm an implanted zygote nor the subsequent baby.

    What I am picking up from some on this thread is judgemental and moralizing, not patient safety concerns, without facts to back it up.
  9. by   ortess1971
    Quote from NurseErica
    Yes women should be able to enjoy themselves, but women should also be responsible enough to know when pregnancy is possible and (if not willing to care for a child) say no/protect themselves. Yes condoms can break, but that's why we have the pill, IUDs, and tons of other BC options. I too know ppl who use Plan B or abortion as their form of birth control, and I hate that. Why can't we say "enjoy sex, but enjoy it responsibly" and leave it at that?
    My mom always told me that if I was mature enough to have sex, I was mature enough to talk about birth control. How ridiculous that the argument for unprotected sex is that "women should be able to enjoy themselves." And we aren't even getting into the risks of STDs......
    If you truly understood my post, I am 100% in favor of using protection. Plan B is not abortion. It works much like an IUD-that is, keeps the egg from implanting in the uterus. My reasoning behind the "condoms can break" comment is that one can be very careful and use all the protection available. But no birth control method is 100%. But I have picking up in many of these posts a definite idea or viewpoint that unplanned pregnancies don't happen to women that are careful or responsible. This is so not true. You can be on the pill but still get pregnant. Heck, one of my good friends got pregnant after her husband had a vasectomy(and yes, the child was his) I myself hate the very misguided idea that Plan B will lead to promiscuity and STD's. This is a scare tactic by the religious right and how sad that many people get sucked in by it. Please, if you're going to respond to a post, please read it carefully and think about it first. I also personally don't care if someone is at the pharmacy EVERY weekend looking for Plan B. Is this really anybody else's business? Not something I would want to do, but I worry about my life and how I'm living it. Also, if someone is so irresponsible as to use Plan B as a primary method of BC, would you really want this person giving birth to and raising a child?
    Last edit by ortess1971 on Aug 25, '06
  10. by   OB_or_NICU_hopeful
    In my opinion it is an abortion pill. But I believe that life begins at fertilization. I am all for availability of BC that prevents fertilization. I can't believe insurance doesn't cover BC pills......is that common? I've never had to buy them.
  11. by   ortess1971
    Quote from OB_or_NICU_hopeful
    In my opinion it is an abortion pill. But I believe that life begins at fertilization. I am all for availability of BC that prevents fertilization. I can't believe insurance doesn't cover BC pills......is that common? I've never had to buy them.
    Yes, it depends on your plan. Mine covers a small amount of the cost. The ironic thing was that I am taking them for a medical reason(regulation of menses/menorrhagia) and still have to pay through the nose for them. Some plans don't cover any of the cost and some people have had issues with pharmacists even refusing to fill prescriptions for BC.:angryfire And even BC pills are not 100% if you read the packaging. Antibiotics can affect how well they work as well.
  12. by   flashpoint
    Quote from marilynmom
    OK, so what if someone comes in a couple times of year seeking emergency contraception? Do you know her background? The whole situation? Maybe, maybe not.

    Even so, it's better for her to go on to have an abortion possibly or have a child she doesn't want? Or to use something like Plan B to prevent a pregnancy to begin with!
    So, in a small town with only one pharmacy that will not be carrying Plan B, she will still have to come to the ER for emergency contraception. If it were available at K-Mart, she could simply walk in and buy it. They could still require you to be 18 or whatever rules they wanted to buy it...they lock up the Sudafed, they could certainly lock up the Plan B.

    Quote from TazziRN
    If a woman needs to use Plan B as emergency contraception twice a year because of a broken condom then she needs to make sure her partner uses a different brand, or she needs to get herself on another form of birth control. Emergency contraception should be used as just that.....emergency. Unless she has the great misfortune of being an assault victim more than once (many apologies to those who have been victims, I'm not trying to be cruel), most women should have few occasions to use emergency contraception.
    Exactly!
  13. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    What I am picking up from some on this thread is judgemental and moralizing, not patient safety concerns, without facts to back it up.

    Why that is a judgment of others in itself. :trout: To assume that people who are voicing their opinions here, and aren't even concerned for the pts, or up on the facts.

    There is a difference between personal opinions, and how the pts are treated. Perhaps some will let one affect the other, but not all will.
    Last edit by Marie_LPN, RN on Aug 25, '06

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