Nurse manhandled by doctor

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Hey guys remember how I was dreading coming to work on Monday? I'm starting to wish I'd called in! :( Sorry this is a long post!

I've seen doctors verbally abuse nurses, seen them throw tantrums and swear at everyone. Have never seen anyone get physical on a nurse until today.

Well today I could not believe the disgusting behaviour of one doctor.

We had patient who had surgery with a very difficult airway who haemorrhaged. It was awful, patient thrashing around, only two of us nurses and a nursing student who were trying to keep him from falling out of the bed. Nurse rushing around trying to bet airway stuff etc. Patient lost control of bowels, bladder very messy, situation. Then it got worse.

The other nurse was next to the doctor trying to staunch bleeding from wound and keep patients arms from thrashing. I was at the end of the bed trying to manage the legs, nursing student next to me. Both of us saw to the whole thing.

The doctor just lost the plot completely. He manhandled the nurse (dare I say assault!), grabbed her right arm and started yanking it towards him (we have no idea what he actually wanted from her something to do with airway assistance probably, no verbal communication here) in a violent manner. He nearly had her off her feet, really pulling her in towards in hard by her wrist with both his arms. It's had to describe this but his whole body was sort of involved with yanking her towards him . The look on his face was pretty scarey, nursing student said he looked as though 'he wanted to eat her alive', I 100% believe the man just lost his temper completely and took it out on her because he looked so incredibly angry.

The nurse (victim) handled it well at the time, didn't yell at him (I probably would have) but when the crisis was over she was really in a state. Could not stand, had to sit with her head down. She had to go home early which I encouraged her to do.

I told her I witnessed the entire incident, that whatever she wanted to do about it I will verify because I saw the whole thing. She reported it to our CNC. CNC's response to this abuse was pretty much 'heat of the moment', 'patient comes first'. You need to speak with the doctor about it yourself'.'Just monitor your wrist and if it's injured we'll take it up further. :banghead: No mention of incident reports, documenting this assault.

Ok so it was a crisis. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR PHYSICAL INTIMIDATION! How on earth are we to focus appropriately in this situation if doctors are going to manhandle us, potentially cause us injury and give us all post traumatic stress disorder? How is this good for the patient?I was so angry all day I too left early to see a staff counsellor because I could just not cope with any more crap today at work. I needed to let it all out instead of taking it home and having my workplace problems affect my relationship like it's been doing of late.

Before I left I filed a report on the whole thing. Instead of an incident report I filled out a risk register report. The reason being is that our CNC deals with all the incident reports and I don't want anyone no matter what their status handling this if they think 'it's ok, heat of the moment'. I strongly believe his behavior put every nurse in that room at risk because he was just out of control and it put the patient at risk because we weren't fully focused on the patient.

If this doctor had of apologised afterwards it wouldn't have changed me reporting him, but it would have made a huge difference to how we all felt the rest of the day.

And what a great experience for the poor nursing student. Afterwards she asked me is this is acceptable and everyday practice!

Anyway feel better now for a vent. Anyone else have some similar experiences out there?

Specializes in Operating Room.
When my mom was a hospital volunteer in the early 1970s, she saw a very prominent OB backhand a nurse in the nurse's station because she didn't get him something soon enough.

Why he was prominent was a complete mystery because he was abusive to his patients too. His favorite thing was doing episiotomies, whether they were necessary or not, and then sewing up the women so tight they couldn't have sex with their husbands.:eek: I knew his son when we were teenagers, and the son was a pompous jerk himself.

OMG!!! I'm sitting here with my mouth open. I can only hope Karma kicked in at some point and this D-bag got what he deserved.

While I have not seen this stuff, I've heard stories about nurses getting hit or sexually abused by docs. Makes me so angry, I can't see straight!:angryfire

I would stay calm and on point. Chances are they will somewhat defend him because they will fear a lawsuit and think they can beat you two down into submission.

I would let them know you will not work with him again and if you ever see him touch another nurse in the same manner you will call the police. Period. Be polite and firm. The firmer you can be the better. They might laugh at this to try and make you feel like you are making a big deal or being a drama queen but then reply you don't find abuse and assault funny. Period again.

I would take a copy of this JCAHO article with you. Let them know you will report the next instance to them as well. Unfortunately it doesn't seem like they will be taking further action beyond this meeting which is a shame.

https://allnurses.com/forums/f195/jcaho-behaviors-undermine-culture-safety-316159.html

And if they try and tell you the two of you didn't handle medical issues in a proper manner and they might do this to shift blame get them right back on point. Tell them this is about assault and abuse of staff. Don't let them bully you.

If they say, "Oh he was stressed out in an emergency and lashed out because of it." I would reply, "So you are condoning employees hitting other employees when they are under diress because I was under the impression it was illegal to hit someone else and find it to be assault in the eyes of the law. Are you stating you disagree with that?!" Keep putting it back on them and use the words abuse and assault because that's what this is. I would add that it's now a hostile environment with this doctor because how could it not be given the circumstances.

My only fear is that this nurse might be easier to bully especially as she doesn't know the language as well and is fairly new from what I remember. They will use that to their advantage. Scumbags. I'll be praying so pls keep us posted. Best of luck!!

Batman has fabulous advice. Keep it on point. Nothing he did was required for patient care. In fact, it DISTRACTED from patient care. If he can't stay calm in an emergent situation, then HE is dangerous to the patient.

Specializes in Operating Room Nursing.

The thing is though he didn't actually hit her as such, he grabbed her by the arm and kept yanking it (very hard) to where he wanted her to staunch bleeding. I think he'll try and say that it was appropriate at the time and that it wasn't assault he was just trying to get her to do something for the patient.

I'm not backing down on this one and I hope she doesn't either. For me it was like watching an abusive husband grabbing at his wife and yanking her back to him. While he was doing it he certainly wasn't assessing the patient, his full attention was on grabbing her,. I won't say this because it does sound dramatic, I will just say that the way he yanked at her was completely inappropriate and that it was distressing for me to be a third party to his violent behaviour. Theres actually a good article on the impact violence has on the witness, maybe I'll bring it with me.

Anyway depending on the outcome of this if his behaviour is justified, there is no apology and we are lectured on how bad we are for not being super nurses I'm getting out of there.

As for the nurses union I am a member but this nurse isn't. I will go to this meeting without a rep but if this turns into a disciplinary meeting against me then I will be getting them involved straight away.

Thanks for the articles, a great read. It's a shame that nurses aren't taken seriously enough. We need to speak out for each other.

The thing is though he didn't actually hit her as such, he grabbed her by the arm and kept yanking it (very hard) to where he wanted her to staunch bleeding. I think he'll try and say that it was appropriate at the time and that it wasn't assault he was just trying to get her to do something for the patient.

I'm not backing down on this one and I hope she doesn't either. For me it was like watching an abusive husband grabbing at his wife and yanking her back to him. While he was doing it he certainly wasn't assessing the patient, his full attention was on grabbing her,. I won't say this because it does sound dramatic, I will just say that the way he yanked at her was completely inappropriate and that it was distressing for me to be a third party to his violent behaviour. Theres actually a good article on the impact violence has on the witness, maybe I'll bring it with me.

Anyway depending on the outcome of this if his behaviour is justified, there is no apology and we are lectured on how bad we are for not being super nurses I'm getting out of there.

As for the nurses union I am a member but this nurse isn't. I will go to this meeting without a rep but if this turns into a disciplinary meeting against me then I will be getting them involved straight away.

Thanks for the articles, a great read. It's a shame that nurses aren't taken seriously enough. We need to speak out for each other.

i would think our laws and yours wouldnt be too far apart, similar base and all.....he is at least guilty of assault and battery...even if he didnt hit her, he had non consentual contact with her....good luck

Specializes in ICU,HOME HEALTH, HOSPICE, HEALTH ED.

"As for the nurses union I am a member but this nurse isn't. I will go to this meeting without a rep but if this turns into a disciplinary meeting against me then I will be getting them involved straight away."

Take a rep. take a rep. take a rep....by the way, are you taking a rep?

"As for the nurses union I am a member but this nurse isn't. I will go to this meeting without a rep but if this turns into a disciplinary meeting against me then I will be getting them involved straight away."

Take a rep. take a rep. take a rep....by the way, are you taking a rep?

I agree. Have you spoken to your rep yet about this situation?! I would advise them and then ask if they will come into the meeting with you as a precautionary measure. Can't hurt any.

I have no doubt they will try and say this was to protect a patient but the fact remains that you can't commit assault on another person just because they aren't doing what we want regardless of the situation. They know this and will still try to defend it to avoid a lawsuit and perhaps even upsetting this doctor if he brings big bucks into the hospital.

if the doctor wanted the nurse to perform a certain task, then verbal instruction would have been a hell of a lot less ambiguous and threatening in his intent.

but he chose to use his muscle vs his mouth.

hang him.

leslie

If management think this will be swept under the carpet with all the other problems they ignore then think again. I'm taking this to my nurses union and am considering calling the police about it.

Because if he gets away with this because it all happened in the 'heat of the moment' I think it sets a very dangerous precedent. When do we then draw the line between what's acceptable physical force for a doctor to use on a nurse? Doctors should be made to understand there is zero tolerance to violence to nurses.

It should not be tolerated, no matter who was against who. I don't care if it was 2 visitors fighting with each other, nurse to nurse, doc to nurse, nurse to doc, tech to housekeeper, whatever. There should be a zero tolerance policy for everyone. Circumstances don't matter (so I don't buy that "heat of the moment BS), violence is not the answer to anything, and it shouldn't be tolerated. In the hospital or anywhere else.

Specializes in Operating Room Nursing.

Update: We had the meeting this morning.

The doctor didn't even remember what he did. Had no recollection of it. He did apologise to the nurse which I'm satisfied with and he actually praised our handling of the situation but I'm not 100% happy about it all.

I didn't find out until this morning that he actually SLAPPED the nurses wrist before he yanking her arm. But of course this is ok according to the senior doctor present at the meeting because 'theres no time to be nice in an emergency'. I don't expect a please or thankyou. If someone accidently knocked me over then that's ok too. But someone deliberately grabbing me and slapping at me? Not on.

It obviously does not matter that this nurses wrist is still sore two weeks later and she no longer has confidence in her nursing skills. We just have to take it on the chin and put up with it. After all patient care comes first...

Well that's it. If this is acceptable treatment of nurses in an emergency situation then I'm getting out of it. I'm not going to end up with a permanent disability because one doctor can't control himself when things go wrong.

And if this ever happened to me I will NEVER trust any hospital organisation to handle this seriously. I would definitely involve the police and my nurses union.

Thankyou allnurses for helping me through this. It's been a nightmare and glad to have your support.

Why does it sound familiar? Oh yeah, it's every Lifetime Movie of the Week about a battered wife. Husband comes back, "I'm so sorry, I don't even remember doing it. But of course you deserved it, if only you didn't make me do these horrible things to you!"

Replace husband with doc and wife with nurse, there you go.

Sucks, just really sucks.:(

Scrubby,

I am sorry it wasn't handled better. I feel so bad for the other nurse.

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