Not a poop or pee nurse?!? - page 2
Okay, just have to vent a little here. :madface: I was working the other day at a fairly new job (which I like a lot), and I was working with another nurse that I haven't shared very many shifts... Read More
Sep 23, '06Yes, elimination products are all a part of nursing. I was trained to be a bedside nurse and that involved all aspects of patient care. As one other nurse said, one day I could be the one that would be lying in the bed in the same condition. Pity the nurse who thinks she is above the care of a patient who no doubt did not choose to be incontinent!
Sep 23, '06Every nurse is a poop and pee nurse. Goes with the territory.
I'm sorry, but I would have had so much fun with her. I would have gotten out a pad and pencil and asked her to clarify her other nursing criteria for the me and her other co-workers:
Do you do vaginal discharge? NO? Okay, check.
How about emesis? Less than 30 mls? Yes. Greater? That's a no.
Will you wipe sweat from a forehead? Yes!
Thanks for clearing that up.
Sep 23, '06I started out being deathly afraid of poop. When I was a CNA in, I was nervous before every shift, wondering how I was going to handle poop that day. The smell makes me gag and my eyes instantly start watering, and I'm so afraid that the patient will see this and I'll embarrass them or make them feel worse than they already do.
But, one day I seriously had to clean about 12 diarrhea diapers, plus, when I was helping a 90-yr-old woman to the bedside commode she let go mid-transfer and it streaked all down my . I was mortified! But, at the end of the day I realized I had survived!
I can handle sputum, blood, pee, etc, but even today I have problems with poop. I still gag and have the watery eyes, but I find ways to hide it from the patient. I have to deal with poop - I don't have a choice - it's part of my job!
This woman needs to be talked to by management - she's not fulfilling her job responsibilities, whether she likes it or not. If I could find a way to deal with it, she can!
And by the way - what is she going to do years from now, when she's incontinent and needs someone to clean her? I hope a well-educated nurse tells her, "Sorry - you'll just have to lay in that. I didn't go to school to clean poop."
Sep 23, '06i believe that the oncoming nurse should question pt/fly to see if they really did refuse a bath that day. chart if they are left incontinent at the end of a shift
to have a pt neglected all shift is a neglect by all who know what is going on not just the lazy nurse
Sep 23, '06I would tell my manager asap. And I'm not the "tattle-tale" type, but that's just too much. I'd rather work short staffed than have a nurse like that on my team.
Sep 23, '06This type of statement needs to be documented to the manager in writing. This is totally unacceptable. Not only is she not a team member but what if it had been her pt laying there? Would she have just left it for the next shift to deal with? A problem with this type of situation is no one wants to actually report it to the manager and if they do report it they don't do it in writing. Without written documentation nothing will change.
A few years ago I went to do the bedside dialysis treatment of a pt who was also incontient of stool. The CNA (a nursing student) was surprised I was willing to help clean the pt. She told me she had order special creams because the man's rectal area was excoriated with the frequent stooling. I took one look and started calling docs. The rectal area wasn't excoriated from stooling it was a hugh peri-rectal abcess. The CNA's had been the only ones to do the peri cares on this pt and didn't have enough experience to recognize what was going on. About 2 weeks later I ran into a former co-worker who said something about "you don't have to deal with poop and pee any more" I just started laughing at him.
Sep 23, '06I'm thinking that one of these days she will probably run into the situation where she is the pt with the continence problem. I wonder what she would think if she had a nurse just like herself assigned to her? It would be fittin'
Sep 23, '06I have worked with both types of nurses as an aide. I honestly believe it is all of our jobs to deal with pee/poop. I had the nurse that would search 5 minutes for me to tell me that the patient in room such and such needed help to the commode. Mind you I was always assisting other patients and by the time I would get to the room the patient had already soiled the bed or worse yet an unsafe patient got up to it alone. I also had the exceptional nurses who would not hesitate to clean a patient or assist a patient to the bathroom or commode. Caring and compassion are vital parts of our jobs in this field and we should never forget that.
Sep 23, '06I do believe this nurse has a twin sister. While I was in a pt. room waiting for assistance to transfer this pt. to the bedside commode the shift charge nurse walked in to introduce herself to the pt.
I asked if she would help me transfer this pt. to which she replied, "I don't believe it's in my Charge Nurse job description." She then turned and walked out.
Sep 23, '06I've worked with twin of this nurse. Had an RN spent 10 mins looking for me (I was cleaning up a C-Diff patient) to tell me that the patient in XXX needed a bedpan. I asked her nicely to please help XXX as I was busy at the moment. She said that was not in her job description and "she didn't do bedpans, that's why she was an RN". My 90 year old patient I was cleaning up said - glad you aren't my nurse, you are a b@tch. I also quit that job shortly thereafter because that was the attitude of most of the RN's there.......
Sep 23, '06yeah, where i come from we call that "too posh to wash".
that woman needs an attitude adjustment!!
Sep 23, '06Quote from TriageRN_34Being a professional patient several times this year (and years past; LOL)) , I have been in the situation where I was sick in a hospital bed and wondered when help was going to arrive! I incurred the problem (it was inevitable, folks) several hours after a surgery in March. I knew the staff outside my room had to have heard me vomiting, but nobody rushed in right away to try to help me. I vaguely remember (must've been delusional and in a fog :uhoh21: ) someone coming in to change my pan, but, again, I wasn't very coherent and, looking back (and now coming across this thread on the discussion forum), I feel angry that nobody came in right away to try to alleviate some of my stress...How are her thoughts on vomit??? It is a part of my patient, and therefore I care enough to help!!!!!!!
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