No Nursing Shortage At The Present Time - page 14

I am assured that some of you are reading this and saying to yourselves, "Duh! This topic is old hat. We already know there's a glut of nurses in many parts of the country, so why are you writing about this?" Here is my reason... Read More

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    Quote from HM-8404
    I would start with doing a search on job sites to see how many openings there are in my area, then I would move to contacting the HR dept. of a company that hires them. Most will give you a min of their time if they know you are researching a job field and not trying to get a job interview. It isn't Rocket Science, just have to use some common sense.
    I'd say most people know this and did this circa years leading up to the fateful 2nd half of 2007. Remember this all came on suddenly (nursing diving into the dumpster). However, if you enter school for nursing now, with out ever even doing a simple google and finding this board for info - you are a bit of lemming.
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    Quote from Stephalump
    If only we could go back to the days when we were ruled by The Fates, Shamans, medicine men, witch doctors, sun gods, and fortune tellers.

    It's human nature to erroneously believe we've somehow lost the "glory days" of human kind when, in fact, you're staring at...human nature.
    Look at what we do to help people feel better about their bad behavior. A wife beater is now someone that commits domestic abuse, a child rapist is a pedophile, a drunk or crackhead has a substance abuse problem, illegal aliens are now called undocumented workers (what if they are not working?), a cheating spouse now is now an adulterer, and now we refer to a lying, cheating, sorry good for nothing as a politician.
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    Quote from HM-8404

    I would start with doing a search on job sites to see how many openings there are in my area, then I would move to contacting the HR dept. of a company that hires them. Most will give you a min of their time if they know you are researching a job field and not trying to get a job interview. It isn't Rocket Science, just have to use some common sense.
    Ironically, lots of job postings and enthusiastic recruiters are two of the main reasons (other than the media and schools) people come on this site and refuse to believe the shortage is a lie. Job postings are plentiful. Unfortunately, my definition of "plentiful" still isn't enough to support the unemployed nurses out there.
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    First wad of sticky carmel popcorn has just been thrown at HM-8404!
    (for starting to get weird and creepy. Have a beer HM-8404 and chillax. Try the popcorn that is now in your hair. It's good!)
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    Quote from Stephalump
    Ironically, lots of job postings and enthusiastic recruiters are two of the main reasons (other than the media and schools) people come on this site and refuse to believe the shortage is a lie. Job postings are plentiful. Unfortunately, my definition of "plentiful" still isn't enough to support the unemployed nurses out there.
    Anyone who has been looking for a job long enough knows that many of these plentiful job postings are 'dummy openings.' Human resources personnel at some healthcare facilities are forced to post job openings externally even though they plan to hire no one. This is because their policies mandate that every position be posted and that a specific number of applicants shall be granted interviews.

    However, HR managers often hire no external people for these posted jobs because they are saving the positions for internal employees who have expressed interest. In other words, even though the local community hospital has tons of postings for new grad programs, the internal applicants who worked there during nursing school as nursing assistants are usually the ones being considered for the available slots.
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    Quote from HM-8404

    Look at what we do to help people feel better about their bad behavior. A wife beater is now someone that commits domestic abuse, a child rapist is a pedophile, a drunk or crackhead has a substance abuse problem, illegal aliens are now called undocumented workers (what if they are not working?), a cheating spouse now is now an adulterer, and now we refer to a lying, cheating, sorry good for nothing as a politician.
    Things were so much simpler when we just called 'em all demon-possessed and stoned them to death, eh?

    Ah, the good old days.

    ...making caramel corn! Thanks for the recipe TothepointeLVN!
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    A good portion of the new grads that are coming up jobless right now probably did start to enter the system pre2008 considering the prereq and application process takes 2 years and nursing school takes at least 2 years. Some jumped into nursing as things started to go sour in their own industry.

    Of course I wouldn't recommend anyone go into nursing now UNLESS it was something they really wanted. If nursing is your chosen career and you think you'll be a nurse for a lifetime you'll get through the tough spots. If its just a job then it's not a sure thing industry anymore.
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    Quote from malamud69
    Just curious....are all of you people that are whining and complaining that there is "no shortage"...employed??? If so, what is the problem. I realize I may have shot myself in the foot opening that can of worms, but it is reminiscent of TV as it tries to scare people about "terror plots"...Just wondering. Have we all become brainwashed by BOTH sides??? Have you seen "soylent green?" Can we even think for ourselves based on our unique life experience anymore?...or are we stuck to the new electronic pacifiers that have infiltrated our human psyche and our destroying our culture from within? We must stop being the cattle blindly going to the slaughter. Besides all this talk about no jobs, lots of jobs etc...it really doesn't matter much anymore...anybody that argued against unions and workers rights has given it all away. We gave up our power as free thinkers and hard workers years ago...we no longer call the shots...why do you complain? What gives you that right? Just wondering as I wait for the onslaught...
    No nibbles, huh?Maybe it's just too hot for fishing today.
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    Quote from workingharder
    No nibbles, huh?Maybe it's just too hot for fishing today.
    I consider that a positive development.

    Quote from Carley77
    We are barely seeing the boomers retire at this point. Give it 5-10 years and between nurses at retirement age and general population the shortage that the experts have been preaching will be full blown.
    The experts aren't preaching that anymore. And even if they were, they haven't been right yet so I'm not sure what difference it makes. Everyone who is pushing to keep the current number of graduates at the same level or higher talks about the baby boomers retiring en masse, but it's really just speculation.

    The truth is nobody knows what is going to happen, but when you have the foremost nursing workforce experts in the country saying that due to an unexpected surge in young people becoming nurses the nursing workforce will grow at the same rate as the population until at least 2030 you have to pay attention to it.
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    Mmmm now I want popcorn. Cheese please!!


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