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NO LUNCH??? NO BREAKS??? Is that common in nursing????? - page 8

Hi everyone! This topic has been bothering me a lot lately. I would love to know your thoughts and experiences! I am a new RN working on a cardiac unit. Since I have been on this floor, I have... Read More

  1. Visit  jjensen profile page
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    I usually eat on the run and am lucky to ever get a full 30 minute for lunch... Even then, I keep my phone and am answering calls all the time... I am lucky to pee most days too...
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  2. Visit  mc3 profile page
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    It struck me as I read these posts. The response of "well, you must have problems with time management because you can't get all your work done in ____ time." Hmm, could it be that all nurses everywhere have a common problem with time management? It it like a personality trait or something? I don't think so!!! I'm tired of hearing that as an excuse, and I'm tired of working hard for 0 dollars because I have to clock out at a certain time, and we can't get the extra people we need to get our jobs done on time :angryfire
    mc3
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  3. Visit  nicurn001 profile page
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    The nurse supervisor invoke poor time management , as a convenient charge to make against the bedside nurse for missing breaks ,has already won half the battle , because it puts you on the defensive and attacks one of the bases of nurses psyche ie. they should be able to cope with all that comes at them .
    An accusation of Poor time managment , also conveniently takes the focus off of the real problem , poor staffing . So it is almost a reflex action , if faced with staff who want to take a legally required break , nursing supervisors will say you are a poor time manager , rather than they are poor human resource managers !.
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  4. Visit  kishinne profile page
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    Quote from Scrubby
    What you are doing is NOT patient centred at all. Your putting your patients at risk because your not eating properly and will be unable to perform your duties as effectively.
    For goodness sake get another nurse to keep an eye on your patients, do the same for them so they can have a meal as well. It's a little thing called teamwork and supporting each other.
    As for the pattern of your routine being ruined, obviously it isn't a good one if it doesn't involve a meal break.

    I don't have anything to do with your opinion i just based it in my experience,i know the word teamwork dont have to say it....all i want is to share is my experience...that is why if u dont want to get hungry quickly eat a heavy breakfast, i tel you, you will not be starving for 8 hours u would still be alert in providing care with your patients...it is so exagerrated if you get your patient at risk if u dont eat..maybe its because we have different setting in a hospital.u can drink,u can seat in the station if your already finished with your task.so probably you can still rest.this will not get too much for you to experience hypoglycemia...
  5. Visit  mscsrjhm profile page
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    Sometimes, taking a lunch would put a big bite into my work schedule. It may seem like only 30 minutes, but playing "catch up" can drown me, and since my work IS taking care of people, I choose not to do that to myself, and especially not to my patients.
    That 30 minutes can multiply itself very quickly into 2 hours overtime.
    This isn't a time management problem- it is a task overload problem.
    I get into a work mode, my mind clicking, prioritizing tasks- and my brain cannot always take a 30 minute stoppage. Like having to re-start a car to get it warm again. (Older cars take longer!!)
    Most times, by not stopping to take a lunch, I am actually putting my patients before myself. They don't suffer for it- and I can grab quick bites, so I don't actually don't suffer either.
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  6. Visit  makes needs known profile page
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    "Have you seen the elderly lady who can't settle down and relax?" She is always wanting to do something, fix something, make something better, sometimes you can't figure out want it is that she needs to relax. She doesn't know what she needs. She can't sit long for a meal, can't eat, is chronically constipated because she can't sit long enough have a BM. Incontinent of urine because she holds it so long, that eventually she overflows. She has a hard time falling asleep, but eventually does. When she sleeps she dreams about the days when she was needed and busy, and took care of very sick people. She was a nurse.
  7. Visit  ImAgypsy profile page
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    Re: NO LUNCH??? NO BREAKS??? Is that common in nursing?????It struck me as I read these posts. The response of "well, you must have problems with time management because you can't get all your work done in ____ time." Hmm, could it be that all nurses everywhere have a common problem with time management? It it like a personality trait or something? I don't think so!!! I'm tired of hearing that as an excuse, and I'm tired of working hard for 0 dollars because I have to clock out at a certain time, and we can't get the extra people we need to get our jobs done on time :angryfire

    MC3:


    You nailed it!
    Now, all I can think is that it must be some kind of nosocomial infection that we all catch from our patients & their visitors....
    I wonder if we could all file Workman's Comp claims for exhaustion, malnourished, dehydrated from all the bathroom and meal breaks we missed due to catchin this horrific malady at work?
    Last edit by ImAgypsy on Feb 24, '09 : Reason: Tried to make the font bigger but couldn't!
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  8. Visit  live4today profile page
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    Quote from Orenda
    I have the same question as you too. I worked at Wal-mart and Home Depot while going to nursing school and my supervisors said you have to take a 15 minutes break for every four hours you are working. If the employee is not taking the break, the company can be fined for not letting their employees taking break. I wonder why nurses working 12 hours shift is only allow 30 minutes break and that's it. Is the rule different for hospital compared to retail businesses?
    Then I guess that would have to be the course taken...to establish a country-wide law that states any employer found guilty of abusing their employees by not seeing to it they get lunch and potty breaks will be fined a substantial penalty.
  9. Visit  aloevera profile page
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    Are you kidding?????

    I RARELY have time to go to the BR, much less eat anything at work...
    yesterday we were short staffed, as usual, and I drank coffee and ate sponge cake on the way to work. Once I got there I worked 12 hr. shift with not a bite to eat and an ice tea that was sent that a pt. didn't want...that was it for the day....I got home and ate and hit the bed. That is a typical day for me.
    I do manage my time well, we do work as a team....BUT when you have 8 admissions, 4 discharges and numerous things going on...sometimes eating is not a priority...it is not even a thought.....
    THAT, MY DEAR, IS REALITY.....
  10. Visit  nicurn001 profile page
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    Quote from aloevera
    Are you kidding?????

    I RARELY have time to go to the BR, much less eat anything at work...
    yesterday we were short staffed, as usual, and I drank coffee and ate sponge cake on the way to work. Once I got there I worked 12 hr. shift with not a bite to eat and an ice tea that was sent that a pt. didn't want...that was it for the day....I got home and ate and hit the bed. That is a typical day for me.
    I do manage my time well, we do work as a team....BUT when you have 8 admissions, 4 discharges and numerous things going on...sometimes eating is not a priority...it is not even a thought.....
    THAT, MY DEAR, IS REALITY.....
    NO , MY DEAR THAT IS YOUR REALITY ....

    Me I get 1 X 30 minute lunch and 2 X 15 minute breaks , totally relieved of patient care . This is good for me , my patients and the hospital . I come back refreshed , relaxed and ready to meet patients needs .This came about because we took the action necessary to make it happen . I'm sorry but there simply is no way to get around this ,If bedside nurses allow management ,to not do , what is necessary to relieve you , then you perpetuate this problem .
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  11. Visit  prmenrs profile page
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    "...No way would my bladder last 13 hours. UTI? Kidney Stones? "


    See, now that's one advantage of working NICU/peds--more DIAPERS available!!

    Seriously, I know hospitals that have gotten in expensive trouble for this sort of thing---w/Dep't of Health Services/JACHO on them like peanut butter on jelly. Numerous "corrective" plans in play, and many visits from various licensing agencies.

    All it took was one class action lawsuit.....and a phone call to DHS.

    So--
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  12. Visit  Scrubby profile page
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    Quote from kishinne
    I don't have anything to do with your opinion i just based it in my experience,i know the word teamwork dont have to say it....all i want is to share is my experience...that is why if u dont want to get hungry quickly eat a heavy breakfast, i tel you, you will not be starving for 8 hours u would still be alert in providing care with your patients...it is so exagerrated if you get your patient at risk if u dont eat..maybe its because we have different setting in a hospital.u can drink,u can seat in the station if your already finished with your task.so probably you can still rest.this will not get too much for you to experience hypoglycemia...
    Sorry but your only advice to the problem with 'eat a big breakfast so you won't starve for 8 hours' is just completely off the planet. What your doing is hurting yourself so that you can go on and on with this completely bizarre routine you have that just sounds unsafe for you and whoever your caring for.

    And you can't tell me that you won't get exhausted, starving after 8 hours of work without a break. There are times when I have to scrub for longer that this, I stuff myself silly before I do and by the end I can hardly think. I would hate to think of someone giving medications in this state.

    If you can't complete your work in a reasonable amount of time and have a lunch break then your in a bad environment. Get out of there. Is it worth risking your good health and patient safety?
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  13. Visit  Altered profile page
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    Quote from BradleyRN
    It certainly is common. That is, unless youre in California. Out there they have ratios (on your unit you could have no more than 4 pts ever). Thanks to those ratios they are not allowed to cover each other for lunch or they would go over the ratio for those 30 min. So they have special nurses that come in just to relieve the others for their lunches, and thus, they get their lunch breaks every single shift. It's like a different country in California for nurses. In the rest of this country, you eat as you work many times, if at all, even though it's a 12 hour shift. We dont have such vocal nurses who demand their rights. They just take it lying down like good little downtrodden employees. :spin:

    I don't know what CA you've been accustomed to..


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