Male L&D nurses - page 4

something i noticed while going through the nursing program was every male nursing students fear and dread of the obstetrics floor. in fact, one man in my class was not even able to participate much... Read More

  1. by   ltcdon
    Having experience in L&D, i think that having a male nurse would be very "uncomfortable" for not only the laboring woman but her partner as well. There are many more tasks involved in assisting in the LABOR of a patient, not just the birth of a baby. Many things are very personal and the process lasts usually for many hours and one must consider all aspects of the experience, not just the birth itself. There are processes like enemas and catherizations and back rubs and perineum stretching involved. As a woman, I do not feel i would be comfortable with a man, whom is a stranger to me, performing these tasks.
  2. by   mobileLPN
    In that case, ltcdon, you can feel free to request a female staff member. There are many women, some of whom have posted here, who don't feel that way. I took care of several L&D pts in nursing school and when I worked at a rural facility. Never once did a pt (or partner) ask for another nurse. That having been said, I still don't llike L&D, far too messy for my taste. One vag delivery makes twice the mess of any GSW or Stab wound.







    Quote from ltcdon
    Having experience in L&D, i think that having a male nurse would be very "uncomfortable" for not only the laboring woman but her partner as well. There are many more tasks involved in assisting in the LABOR of a patient, not just the birth of a baby. Many things are very personal and the process lasts usually for many hours and one must consider all aspects of the experience, not just the birth itself. There are processes like enemas and catherizations and back rubs and perineum stretching involved. As a woman, I do not feel i would be comfortable with a man, whom is a stranger to me, performing these tasks.
  3. by   Alnamvet
    Quote from shodobe
    My only question is---WHY? I just don't get the reason why a guy would want to work in that environment. I have been doing this for 27 years and never could understand the appeal that L&D has for "certain" men. We had one guy a number o years back try to force himself into the Labor room only to be told NO by adminstration. I really don't think he had the patient's in mind as much as he wanted to prove a point, he lost! I work with female patients day in and day out in the OR and have never had one ever tell me they did not want me there. The only time the subject was ever brought up was when one of our Muslim doc's wife was going to have surgery. He knew me and one other guy worked in the OR and he asked us, as a favor to him and his wife, if we would not go into the room. I would not have gone in even if he had not asked because of the religious background. I think if a male nurse wants to go into the L&D, he has to ask himself, who is this for-the patient or myself? I personally think it is for the guys own crusade to try to set a precedent. Male nurses have no business in the L&D, I don't care for what reason. Women in general should know they have a place to go for privacy. This is only my two cents worth and usually isn't even worth the two cents! Mike

    Yes...what is the appeal...like why do women want to prove a point by forcng themselves in firehouses, taking down the girlie calendars, and forcing the men to watch their potty mouth?...why do women have to prove a point by forcing the armed services to allow them in combat roles...to take up space in the cockpits of jet aircraft...to command, or is it commandeer naval ships. Is it for the gals "own crusade to try to set a precedent"...I think that if a female wants to do what has been traditionally a man's job, she has to ask herself, who is this for-the organization she wants to join, or myself? Females have no business in a traditional man's job, I don't care for what reason. Men in general should know they have a place to go for privacy...to not have to watch their potty mouth...to walk around the station house nekkid as a jay bird if they wish...does this arguement work as well in reverse
  4. by   Energizer Bunny
    What you are basically saying then is that No men should be nurses either.
  5. by   gwenith
    Quote from Alnamvet
    Yes...what is the appeal...like why do women want to prove a point by forcng themselves in firehouses, taking down the girlie calendars, and forcing the men to watch their potty mouth?...why do women have to prove a point by forcing the armed services to allow them in combat roles...to take up space in the cockpits of jet aircraft...to command, or is it commandeer naval ships. Is it for the gals "own crusade to try to set a precedent"...I think that if a female wants to do what has been traditionally a man's job, she has to ask herself, who is this for-the organization she wants to join, or myself? Females have no business in a traditional man's job, I don't care for what reason. Men in general should know they have a place to go for privacy...to not have to watch their potty mouth...to walk around the station house nekkid as a jay bird if they wish...does this arguement work as well in reverse

    I gather you are attempting either sarcasm or being facetious?
  6. by   Alnamvet
    Quote from gwenith
    I gather you are attempting either sarcasm or being facetious?
    BOTH! I don't believe that any job should be defined as gender specific...if you have the skills or knowledge base, you should not be dicriminated against solely based on gender...if you desire a specialty in nursing such as midwifery, why is it that if you are a man, why is there a discussion about it? Where was the discussion when male OB's dominated the field up until the late 80's? Who's complaining about male midwives, or for that matter, male nurses? I think the answer is the opposite sex...we broke into nursing, and they hate it, and now that we have male CNM, they hate it even more. Just my dollar 2 ninety 8. :stone
  7. by   NP2BE
    For male nurses I wouldn't have a problem because I feel nurses in general listen to the patients more than the drs do anyway.[/QUOTE]


    This is ridiculous, I have had many medical problems over the years and found the distribution of people not listening to be pretty even.
  8. by   CHATSDALE
    I have to disagree with LTCDON about the having males in l/d rooms. there were is addition to md who was male there was a anesthetist (male) in the delivery room.....

    I have as a nurse placed catherters in males and done all types of nursing activities with a male patient I usually ask the family to step out in the hall for a minute and then do the procedure and tidy up and then on my way out I tell them to go back in

    It all depends on your professional manner I would do nothing to make them feel uncomfortable or embarassed
  9. by   L&D_RN_OH
    I don't have a problem with male nurses in L&D if that is where they want to be. I can tell you that we don't have any male nurses on our unit. I can only assume that is because none are interested at this time.

    Personally, I think childbirth is a very intimate personal experience. And while I think males could easily assist with labor, I think the comfort level of the pt needs to be considered. Personally, I would not feel comfortable with a vag exam, assistance with breastfeeding, or a PP perineal assessment by a male. Perhaps this is why I choose to see a female PCP rather than a male.
  10. by   indigo
    Right on. For me, I think midwifery is for women and about women and it makes sense for women to attend to women birthing. But for others, it really doesn't matter and a male l/d nurse would be fine. Let the mother decide.
  11. by   Alnamvet
    Quote from indigo
    Right on. For me, I think midwifery is for women and about women and it makes sense for women to attend to women birthing. But for others, it really doesn't matter and a male l/d nurse would be fine. Let the mother decide.
    Right on. For me, police, fire, rescue, combat pilots, ship commands, Spec Ops, submariners, big game fishing, auto mechanics, factory jobs, mining, construction workers, ship builders, astronauts, black bag ops, politics, et al are for men only, and about men and it makes sense for men to attend to male dominated world events. But for others, it really doesn't matter and a female in a male dominated profession would be fine. Let the voters decide.
  12. by   Energizer Bunny
    Sexist and insulting....both ways....I can't believe this is still an issue with people in this country.
  13. by   jwk
    Quote from ltcdon
    Having experience in L&D, i think that having a male nurse would be very "uncomfortable" for not only the laboring woman but her partner as well. There are many more tasks involved in assisting in the LABOR of a patient, not just the birth of a baby. Many things are very personal and the process lasts usually for many hours and one must consider all aspects of the experience, not just the birth itself. There are processes like enemas and catherizations and back rubs and perineum stretching involved. As a woman, I do not feel i would be comfortable with a man, whom is a stranger to me, performing these tasks.
    I TRULY don't get this argument in this day and time, and am 100% opposed to those of you that say males SHOULDN'T be in L&D. Males have been involved in L&D for ages - it's just that for most of this time they were the OB docs, not the nurses. There are a small but growing number of male CNM's and L&D nurses. More power to them. There have always been other males involved as well - surgical techs, anesthesia providers, etc.

    I'm sure when the FHT's hit the floor that the patient will be glad ANY nurse is there to help them.

    I think the ONLY time that a request for having no males present would be reasonable would be for religious reasons. As long as a nurse of the opposite gender in ANY specialty conducts themselves in a professional manner there shouldn't be a problem. Simply being "uncomfortable" is not a good enough reason.

    Discrimination is discrimination. The comparison to black vs. white or other types of discrimination is NOT a nonsensical comparison. Patients can't come into the hospital and say, "I don't want black nurses taking care of me", or "I don't want that Jewish anesthetist". All of you female nurses seem to have no problem putting a foley in a male patient, but flip it around the other way and it's somehow wrong? Give me a break!

    We've got female urologists at my hospital, doing vasectomies, digital rectal exams, and (gasp) penile prostheses. And we have male plastic surgeons doing breast augmentations and nipple reconstructions. Surely there should be a constitutional amendment against this inter-gender medical contact.

    I've worked with lots of male L&D nurses, OB techs, scrub techs, and surgical assistants over the years. In my 30 years of healthcare experience, above all else, patients want caring, competent, and knowledgeable professionals caring for them, period.

    You can't demand not to have discrimination EXCEPT.....

    You can't demand equality EXCEPT.....

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