Lazy Student Nurse Preceptors! - page 6

I am furious over my most recent clinical experience. I'm in my last semester of school and graduating in May. Our school waits until 4th semester to learn IV's. Well, the "goals" for this... Read More

  1. by   hoolahan
    Originally posted by Flo1216
    Mattsmom-I hope I never have you as a preceptor, no offense. I have never once heard you say a positive thing about students or new nurses. In general, I have noticed that the people who refuse to be supportive of newcomers are the same ones who gripe about them when they start working because they don't know anything. Or if they ask for help they are made to feel incompetent or foolish. I guess these nurses came out of the womb with a stethoscope around their necks and already knew everything. As for the nurse's license being on the line, students ARE responsible for their actions and carry malpractice insurance. The nurse would only be liable if she delegated inappropriately. I cannot speak for other nursing schools but I have to say that I don't feel that I nor my peers feel a sense of entitlement about anything other than receiving respect. It's not like we are sitting at the nurse's station with our feet up reading a magazine. However I see a lot of the staff doing similar things. I shouldn't be snapped at by an RN because a pt wants his IV reconnected and students cannot touch PICC lines. I don't know...I am in my final semester and out of the 3 years I have been here I have found few nurses that are helpful or even friendly. However, the doctors/residents, respiratory therapists, IV therapists, social workers, etc. have been wonderful and I have learned so much from them. Mostly from the nurses, I have learned what NOT to do. It's really sad because we are supposed to be a team and the students depend on them. The instructors can't teach us EVERYTHING. I am sure a large part of our knowledge will be acquired on the job. but I am starting to feel like it is every man for himself.
    The part I highlighted in italics, that does not seem nervy or insulting to you. OK, whatever.

    Really nurses don't learn everything they need to in nursing school? I wish someone had shared that w me 23 years ago!

    No one could have been a more ill-prepared graduate nurse than me. This is precisely what has driven me to be the kind of preceptor I am. All I ask is that you take some responsibility. I read a lot of posts here where students are humble about thier mistakes, and others where they finger point and try to lay blame for their lack of ___________ (studying, commitment, interest...insert word here) on everyone else around them.

    Of course non one can learn everything in nursing school!!! We, who have commented here and have been practicing nurses for a cummulative number of years felt the same way you did once, we're just a little older and/or wiser at this point in our nursing journey than a student. I never had a chance to start IV's in nursing school, never spent time in an ICU, had no clue what an ambu bag was the first code I witnessed, and almost set the hospital on fire my first week there by not clarifying the use of the appropriate equipment. I only survived b/c I was so young and too niave to know how much I didn;t know, and some really wonderful nurses helped me along the way.

    Just b/c I didn't like the tone of the original post, or the title, and voiced a strong opinion in no way makes me insensitive to the needs of a new grad or a student, and to judge me (or anyone else who I have seen make wonderful insightful contributions to this bb) by a few posts, and not by my (our) actions is presumptuous at best.
  2. by   Flo1216
    Like I said ,the impression I get from Mattsmom's posts is that she is not particularly receptive to students or newcomers. I reacted to the way the post made me feel just as you reacted to the way my post made you feel.
  3. by   kids
    Originally posted by Flo1216
    Like I said ,the impression I get from Mattsmom's posts is that she is not particularly receptive to students or newcomers. I reacted to the way the post made me feel just as you reacted to the way my post made you feel.
    Great, we get it...your impression, your reactions, your feelings...and my observation is that they are yours alone...own them and get over it.

    I am pretty sick of your making insults and just plain rude comments directed at individuals everytime you get in to deep you start "justifying" your comments with how they are "your" impression..."your" feelings...and "your" reactions... or else you start complaining how your comments are being mistaken or that a mean comment was ment in a "nice" way.

    I don't think I am the only person who feels like this...I'm just the first to snap. Now if your feelings are hurt because I was "mean" to you go ahead and report me to a Mod, I could care less cuz I've now said my piece and I'm out of here.
  4. by   Flo1216
    Kids r fun...Maybe YOU need to get over it. I'm fine. If I justify my statements it is because I feel they are misunderstood. Take a chill pill.
  5. by   sunnygirl272
    Originally posted by Flo1216
    Kids r fun...Maybe YOU need to get over it. I'm fine. If I justify my statements it is because I feel they are misunderstood. Take a chill pill.
    nonny nonny booboo.
  6. by   Flo1216
    lol:roll :chuckle
  7. by   OBNURSEHEATHER
    Originally posted by fab4fan
    Oh well, you'll see when you are practicing...
    Can I call B-I-N-G-O twice in one thread????
  8. by   OBNURSEHEATHER
    Originally posted by Flo1216
    Kids r fun...Maybe YOU need to get over it. I'm fine. If I justify my statements it is because I feel they are misunderstood. Take a chill pill.
    I'm rubber, you're glue.

    ***** Can you make a valid, adult argument here?

    Heather
  9. by   Flo1216
    So when I practice I will be mean and nasty to anyone with less experience than myself? They forgot to teach us that in school.
  10. by   sunnygirl272
    Originally posted by Flo1216
    So when I practice I will be mean and nasty to anyone with less experience than myself? They forgot to teach us that in school.
    if confronted with a student that seems to know all already, and be superior already....all but a saint would become a smidgen nasty...
  11. by   Flo1216
    What is it that what I am saying lacks validity? I am giving a student's perspective. But I guess the opinions of a student do not matter.
  12. by   OBNURSEHEATHER
    Hey, take your own advice and, like, take a chill pill.
  13. by   CANRN
    Originally posted by sjoe


    The problem is with whoever assigned this preceptor to you. It was a singularly inappropriate assignment for the travel nurse to be given for several reasons, and any competent person would know that.
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    I was thinking the very same thing as I read your post. Go to your instructor at your school and discuss this with her. They need to know about this!

    And also, all new grads feel a bit or alot, clueless when they first graduate and start to work. I look back at myself and it's truly amazing how much more I have learned and still learn about nursing.

    Good Luck to you,

    Cindy

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