Lazy Student Nurse Preceptors!

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I am furious over my most recent clinical experience. I'm in my last semester of school and graduating in May. Our school waits until 4th semester to learn IV's. Well, the "goals" for this semester is to get as much IV experience, practice on all other procedures/shots, and shadow a real RN. Well, my first clinical night with a new preceptor was a disaster. I was assigned a travel/agency RN from NY. This was her 2nd night in a new hospital and a new state. She is given specific instructions to let me do all IV's, meds, procedures etc on this patient. She happily agrees, but doesnt listen. Next thing I know, she's hanging IV's, giving heparin shots, and changing tubing. All these things were supposed to be done by me and checked by her. When asked, she kept saying, "Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot". It was as if she resented me being there and just wanted to get the job done without taking time to teach me. Next thing I know, she is volunteering me to give this hemiparetic, 250+ comatose man a bed bath and mouth care. Not that I think this is not a nursing role by no means, however, this is not something I need to learn again. How is it she forgets to teach me IV's, but suddenly remembers I can do a bed bath? I was furious. I learned how to do bed bath's 1st semester and certainly did not need the practice now. So, I essentially spent the whole evening doing "tech" stuff and learned nothing about IVs or the nursing role. Again, I'm not saying bed bath and oral care are not important, however, I need to be practicing procedures and IVs not bed baths. So, I guess my point was why are some RN's so reluctant to teach students and others so great? I felt she was using me to do the jobs she didnt want to do. The other students were doing caths, NG's, etc and I got stuck with a bed bath and oral care. Just wanted to get some input from the veteran RN's out there.

I don't agree with that though, Fab. There is a difference between constructive criticism and the pirannah-like behavior exhibited by some nurses who simply are not receptive to students. I welcome constructive criticism because I know it can only make me a better nurse -what I do not welcome is my future coworkers grumbling and rolling their eyes at the thought of my very existence. In addition to being a minor inconvienience in their day, I am also a person. And I have feelings.

I never said that...what I said was that there are some students who feel that if it's not on their checklist, then they don't have to do it. If you are co-assigned to another nurse, then you work together as a team; it's not just pick and choose what you want to do. Since that nurse is going to be slowed down by precepting you, it only seems fair that you give her a hand in return.

Oh well, you'll see when you are practicing...

I actually agree with you about the checklist thing. I mean if inserting a foley is on my checklist and I check it off, I wouldn't refuse to do it again just because I checked it off. How else will you become good at something unless you do it over and over? That is a silly concept and I can see where you may get frustrated.

its not all about the snazzy exciting skills on your checklist

nursing is far beyond that....SOME

nursing students these days (and I havent been a nurse for that long so its not like old gramma wendy is piping up about the good old days) do seem to think that they are owed something , which I dont understand at all .... you have to realize that yes although you do have a preceptor in the hospital you should use your instructor or your school as more of a resource. I find a lot of pressure is put on the nurses on my unit who precept and the instructors sometimes get away with doing less than they should as a result of the floor nurse taking on everything.

People need to remember that they are paying big bucks to go to school and that the people working at their schools are there to help them and ARE to be used as a resource for students...

often times its the students who think they know so much about everything that end up falling flat on their faces when they start practicing nursing. Sorry to say that care and meeting hygenic needs of your patients is a MAJOR part of nursing and it needs to be done, so just cuz you may have done that first semester and want to move on to more "exciting" or "new" skills, doesnt mean that this stuff is going to magically disappear or be done by someone else...

Specializes in Home Health.
Originally posted by Flo1216

Mattsmom-I hope I never have you as a preceptor, no offense. I have never once heard you say a positive thing about students or new nurses. In general, I have noticed that the people who refuse to be supportive of newcomers are the same ones who gripe about them when they start working because they don't know anything. Or if they ask for help they are made to feel incompetent or foolish. I guess these nurses came out of the womb with a stethoscope around their necks and already knew everything. As for the nurse's license being on the line, students ARE responsible for their actions and carry malpractice insurance. The nurse would only be liable if she delegated inappropriately. I cannot speak for other nursing schools but I have to say that I don't feel that I nor my peers feel a sense of entitlement about anything other than receiving respect. It's not like we are sitting at the nurse's station with our feet up reading a magazine. However I see a lot of the staff doing similar things. I shouldn't be snapped at by an RN because a pt wants his IV reconnected and students cannot touch PICC lines. I don't know...I am in my final semester and out of the 3 years I have been here I have found few nurses that are helpful or even friendly. However, the doctors/residents, respiratory therapists, IV therapists, social workers, etc. have been wonderful and I have learned so much from them. Mostly from the nurses, I have learned what NOT to do. It's really sad because we are supposed to be a team and the students depend on them. The instructors can't teach us EVERYTHING. I am sure a large part of our knowledge will be acquired on the job. but I am starting to feel like it is every man for himself.:o

The part I highlighted in italics, that does not seem nervy or insulting to you. OK, whatever. :rolleyes:

Really nurses don't learn everything they need to in nursing school? I wish someone had shared that w me 23 years ago! :rolleyes:

No one could have been a more ill-prepared graduate nurse than me. This is precisely what has driven me to be the kind of preceptor I am. All I ask is that you take some responsibility. I read a lot of posts here where students are humble about thier mistakes, and others where they finger point and try to lay blame for their lack of ___________ (studying, commitment, interest...insert word here) on everyone else around them.

Of course non one can learn everything in nursing school!!! We, who have commented here and have been practicing nurses for a cummulative number of years felt the same way you did once, we're just a little older and/or wiser at this point in our nursing journey than a student. I never had a chance to start IV's in nursing school, never spent time in an ICU, had no clue what an ambu bag was the first code I witnessed, and almost set the hospital on fire my first week there by not clarifying the use of the appropriate equipment. I only survived b/c I was so young and too niave to know how much I didn;t know, and some really wonderful nurses helped me along the way.

Just b/c I didn't like the tone of the original post, or the title, and voiced a strong opinion in no way makes me insensitive to the needs of a new grad or a student, and to judge me (or anyone else who I have seen make wonderful insightful contributions to this bb) by a few posts, and not by my (our) actions is presumptuous at best.

Like I said ,the impression I get from Mattsmom's posts is that she is not particularly receptive to students or newcomers. I reacted to the way the post made me feel just as you reacted to the way my post made you feel.

Originally posted by Flo1216

Like I said ,the impression I get from Mattsmom's posts is that she is not particularly receptive to students or newcomers. I reacted to the way the post made me feel just as you reacted to the way my post made you feel.

Great, we get it...your impression, your reactions, your feelings...and my observation is that they are yours alone...own them and get over it.

I am pretty sick of your making insults and just plain rude comments directed at individuals everytime you get in to deep you start "justifying" your comments with how they are "your" impression..."your" feelings...and "your" reactions... or else you start complaining how your comments are being mistaken or that a mean comment was ment in a "nice" way.

I don't think I am the only person who feels like this...I'm just the first to snap. Now if your feelings are hurt because I was "mean" to you go ahead and report me to a Mod, I could care less cuz I've now said my piece and I'm out of here.

Kids r fun...Maybe YOU need to get over it. I'm fine. If I justify my statements it is because I feel they are misunderstood. Take a chill pill.

Originally posted by Flo1216

Kids r fun...Maybe YOU need to get over it. I'm fine. If I justify my statements it is because I feel they are misunderstood. Take a chill pill.

nonny nonny booboo.:rolleyes:

lol:):roll :D :chuckle

Originally posted by fab4fan

Oh well, you'll see when you are practicing...

Can I call B-I-N-G-O twice in one thread????

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