"It isn't your mother; it's the disease"

Only nice people get Alzheimer's? Really? Nurses Announcements Archive Article

I wish I had a dollar for every time my mother's or my mother-in-law's bad behavior prompted a nurse or a CNA somewhere to tell me that. Mom curses at me and tells me I'm ugly and stupid -- the nurse sighs sympathetically and says "that's not your mother, that's the disease." Meaning Alzheimer's. My mother-in-law kicks, screams, spits, scratches and bites when the urge strikes her. And the CNA helpfully tells my sister-in-law "It's not your mother. That's the disease."

Surely it cannot be that only NICE people get Alzheimer's. Because, as my sister-in-law told one gaping-jawed CNA "That's not the disease, that's my mother."

Believe it or not, I really understand how devastating it can be to have a cherished and beloved parent who has always treated you with loving kindness suddenly turn on you with threats and violence. I don't "get it", I suppose, because I haven't had that experience. But it is a commonly written-about experience. New York magazine writers who have lost a parent to Alzheimer's can wax eloquently for a few thousand words about how their wonderful, thoughtful and beloved parent lost first the memories and then the personality that made them so wonderful, thoughtful and cherished. But for my husband, my sister-in-law and me, the experience is quite different. The parent who terrorized us and beat us as children, judged and condemned us as young adults and treated us to screaming and manipulation were we ever unwary enough to darken their door as responsible adults isn't a commonly journalized theme.

I've had two and a half years of a loving, positive relationship with my mother -- two and a half out of 56. It's a wrenching loss to realize that's gone forever. But I didn't really have a chance to get used to it or take it for granted. No one ever talks about this experience.

I'm constantly amazed at how many people -- in this case, my GYN -- judge me for not bringing my mother into my home to take care of her. Or for not visiting her more than a few times a year. They don't understand, but they're ready and willing to judge. My mother is a thousand miles away; it costs me nearly that many dollars every time I visit her. My sister-in-law gets the same cold stares and incredulity from strangers who are hearing for the first time about her experience dealing with a parent with Alzheimer's. Strangely, no one judges my husband. But that's another essay.

To the student nurse who looked askance at my sister-in-law when she did visit her mother after a few months respite from the constant crying, screaming and demands: Sometimes there's a reason these "darling" old people don't have very many visitors, and it isn't that their children are selfish or ungrateful. Sometimes it's self preservation. To the GYN who couldn't understand how anyone could leave their parent in a "home": when that parent kicked you out of their home when you were 15 or made that home so frightening that you left willingly at 17, the last thing you want to do in their "golden years" is welcome them into yours.

And to anyone who has ever said to me or my husband that "It isn't your mother, it's the disease": Sometimes it isn't the disease. It's my mother.

My grandmother ruined my parents marriage, she has accused me to my face of not being my father's child, and she has done much worse to other members of my family, my father chose his mother over his wife and children. Later on he realized his mistake too late, but my mother wouldn't take him back. My grandmother tried very hard to ruin her other childrens marriages. Yet when he lay on his deathbed and was calling out for her, his own mother stood in the doorway and walked away and his daughters were the ones who stayed with him to the end.

My husband has made it very clear that she is not welcome in our home, and we have never visited her nor seen her since the day my father died, though she has asked to see me. She can call out for me, just like my father called out for her for all I care. Some wounds run deep.

The sad part is, Grandma looks like the sweetest nicest old woman you would ever meet. She used to work for a nursing home back in the day...and all the retired nurses can't understand why her granddaughter that is a nurse has nothing to do with her. I get cards all the time, telling me she's getting frail, and I really should check up on her from xxx RN, or xxx LPN. They just don't get it.

Specializes in tele, oncology.

Aw, Ruby, anytime you need some empathy you can come on here and get some.

I learned from watching my mom deal with her parents that you should never assume...she was the oldest and therefore took on the responsibility to care for her parents, who were ahall we say lacking in skills in that department. Both she and my dad broke the alcohol cycle...all four of my bio grandparents were raging alcoholics...and the abuse cycle. My mom said it was when I was a toddler and she seriously thought she broke my leg that the cycle of physical abuse stopped. She said it was all she knew and how she grew up, but she made the decision that she was gonna damn well not have me (and subsequent ither kids) grow up in fear of their parents like she did. I did end up getting some memorable old school whuppins throughout my life...but all were well earned and the mere fact that they only happened a handful of times that I can remember really made those lessons stick!

She is still, years after her parents' deaths, conflicted about her relationship with them. She never seemed to enjoy the obligatory visits, but she says at least she can live without the guilt of not having taken care of them. (Not to cast aspersions on anyone else's decisions regarding their parents...she just decided that she was emotionally traumatized by them enough that she chose to not add to it by not caring for them...it's just her personality.)

My Dad's mom managed to alienate so many people who were close to her that all I can really feel for her is pity. Her complete self-centeredness and generally witch-like tendencies meant that when she died, us kids hadn't seen her for years, and only a handful of people came to her funeral.

Whenever people get too judgemental about families, I cite those exapmles from my own life. We don't know, can't know, all the crazy family dynamics that might be at play...all we should really do is support the pt and family as much as they need/allow.

All I can say is AMEN sister! I was always reminding my team not to judge that family/family member who visits very little..or at all. Some of the residents had sons, daughters, grandchildren, siblings etc that NO ONE realized b/c they never came around. I would always hear "how can she live with herself..she rarely comes around and never stays more than 1/2 hour"

I would gently remind them that they did not know the person that, that son/daughter etc knew. That there might be a reason they never come around..or very little. That "sweet, loving" little old lady or man might have been a tyrant in their younger years..they might have been physically and/or mentally abusive to the kids etc. And even if miss sally or mr joe are 'with it' A&O x3, and are just the sweetest most loving people to us..that might not be how they were toward the family (funny thing about that..you never know what goes on inside someones home!)

No one understands my distant and somewhat cold attitude toward my own mother..she truely is one of the nicest most loving and giving person ever..to OTHER people..NOT to my sister or me! And sadly, I can say with almost 100% certainity, that me and my sister will be "those daughters" who rarely come around and only stay for a short period of time.

...you don't know..what you don't know. So don't judge that absentee family member!

Um... wow! I can totally identify with you. My mother also has the reputation of being such a wonderful person. When I was growing up, she never missed a chance to criticize me and tell me that I didn't care about anyone but myself. That still hurts me to this day because it couldn't have been farther from the truth. Instead, she was mostly describing herself. I never, ever came first in her life. Instead, I always came in dead last, behind everyone else whether it was other family members, my brother, her men, her friends, her classmates, acquaintances, probably strangers a couple of times, you name it. I was never allowed to play any kind of sports because she wasn't willing to take me to practices, games, whatever. My brother was always taken wherever he needed to go. I was never taken to the dentist as a child. I was about 22 years old before I ever had my teeth cleaned. But my brother and my two step sisters were taken every 6 months like clockwork. I also have a cyst on my knee that has been there since I was very small. Because I was never taken to the doctor to have it treated, it will be an in depth surgery to treat it now.

The first time I was kicked out of the house I was nine years old. I have a nine year old daughter and I can't even imagine her doing something that would cause me to throw my child out. I can't really remember a happy holiday because my stepfather always went out of his way to ruin things for me. I spent many Christmases alone. She never bought anything for me. If I asked for anything, the answer was always "You better ask your dad because I'm not getting it!" in a super sarcastic tone. All the while I was watching my friends' mothers taking an interest in them; fixing their hair, buying them outfits, doing mother-daughter things. If I mentioned it, my mother always said "That stuff doesn't mean anything". If I had a friend over, she'd start a fight with me, or make fun of me, or try to embarrass me.

When I was 11, I started my period. I had to wad up toilet paper to use in place of a pad because I never had any. I suffered terrible cramps but she never offered to help me deal with them. I didn't have anyone to talk to about anything. I don't have any female relatives local and really, I would have been embarrassed to let anyone know just how uninterested in me my mother was. When I was in the hospital having my first baby, she treated me so badly that she was asked to leave by a nurse.

Like I mentioned earlier, my mother has a reputation of being such a wonderful person who will do anything for anyone. What no one realizes is that she will do anything for anyone except me. I once had a friend of hers tell me that she didn't understand why I was such a terrible little brat when I had such a wonderful mother. It still bothers me now, after all these years.

Now that I am grown, my mother wants us to be all friendly and buddy buddy with each other. She said something once about us being 'close'. I nearly choked. We are about as far from being close as we can get. I don't feel comfortable with her, I don't even like talking to her. To make things worse, she completely denies everything. She even denies kicking me out of the house once when in reality, it happened several times. After so many years of no help at all from her, she now expects me to do EVERYTHING for her. If I refuse to do something, the guilt trip is amazing. My brother, who was doted on all those years, is now a complete loser. Unemployed, in and out of prison, drug addict, you name it.

If something doesn't go her way, I get emails or texts or phone calls from her sisters and friends admonishing me for being such a bad daughter to my "wonderful mother". We took her on vacation with us last year. The entire time, literally, she tried to ruin things for me. From the first minute to the last. She was outraged and mystified as to why she wasn't invited this year...

My mother didn't physically abuse me but the emotional abuse is something that will stay with me forever. I cannot imagine bringing her into my home to care for her in her later years. I can hardly imagine caring for her at all.

I apologize for my rant but it helps... :)

Um... wow! I can totally identify with you. My mother also has the reputation of being such a wonderful person. When I was growing up, she never missed a chance to criticize me and tell me that I didn't care about anyone but myself. That still hurts me to this day because it couldn't have been farther from the truth. Instead, she was mostly describing herself. I never, ever came first in her life. Instead, I always came in dead last, behind everyone else whether it was other family members, my brother, her men, her friends, her classmates, acquaintances, probably strangers a couple of times, you name it. I was never allowed to play any kind of sports because she wasn't willing to take me to practices, games, whatever. My brother was always taken wherever he needed to go. I was never taken to the dentist as a child. I was about 22 years old before I ever had my teeth cleaned. But my brother and my two step sisters were taken every 6 months like clockwork. I also have a cyst on my knee that has been there since I was very small. Because I was never taken to the doctor to have it treated, it will be an in depth surgery to treat it now.

The first time I was kicked out of the house I was nine years old. I have a nine year old daughter and I can't even imagine her doing something that would cause me to throw my child out. I can't really remember a happy holiday because my stepfather always went out of his way to ruin things for me. I spent many Christmases alone. She never bought anything for me. If I asked for anything, the answer was always "You better ask your dad because I'm not getting it!" in a super sarcastic tone. All the while I was watching my friends' mothers taking an interest in them; fixing their hair, buying them outfits, doing mother-daughter things. If I mentioned it, my mother always said "That stuff doesn't mean anything". If I had a friend over, she'd start a fight with me, or make fun of me, or try to embarrass me.

When I was 11, I started my period. I had to wad up toilet paper to use in place of a pad because I never had any. I suffered terrible cramps but she never offered to help me deal with them. I didn't have anyone to talk to about anything. I don't have any female relatives local and really, I would have been embarrassed to let anyone know just how uninterested in me my mother was. When I was in the hospital having my first baby, she treated me so badly that she was asked to leave by a nurse.

Like I mentioned earlier, my mother has a reputation of being such a wonderful person who will do anything for anyone. What no one realizes is that she will do anything for anyone except me. I once had a friend of hers tell me that she didn't understand why I was such a terrible little brat when I had such a wonderful mother. It still bothers me now, after all these years.

Now that I am grown, my mother wants us to be all friendly and buddy buddy with each other. She said something once about us being 'close'. I nearly choked. We are about as far from being close as we can get. I don't feel comfortable with her, I don't even like talking to her. To make things worse, she completely denies everything. She even denies kicking me out of the house once when in reality, it happened several times. After so many years of no help at all from her, she now expects me to do EVERYTHING for her. If I refuse to do something, the guilt trip is amazing. My brother, who was doted on all those years, is now a complete loser. Unemployed, in and out of prison, drug addict, you name it.

If something doesn't go her way, I get emails or texts or phone calls from her sisters and friends admonishing me for being such a bad daughter to my "wonderful mother". We took her on vacation with us last year. The entire time, literally, she tried to ruin things for me. From the first minute to the last. She was outraged and mystified as to why she wasn't invited this year...

My mother didn't physically abuse me but the emotional abuse is something that will stay with me forever. I cannot imagine bringing her into my home to care for her in her later years. I can hardly imagine caring for her at all.

I apologize for my rant but it helps... :)

Sometimes, in these situations, saying goodbye can be the most freeing thing you can say.

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
um... wow! i can totally identify with you. my mother also has the reputation of being such a wonderful person. when i was growing up, she never missed a chance to criticize me and tell me that i didn't care about anyone but myself. that still hurts me to this day because it couldn't have been farther from the truth. instead, she was mostly describing herself. i never, ever came first in her life. instead, i always came in dead last, behind everyone else whether it was other family members, my brother, her men, her friends, her classmates, acquaintances, probably strangers a couple of times, you name it. i was never allowed to play any kind of sports because she wasn't willing to take me to practices, games, whatever. my brother was always taken wherever he needed to go. i was never taken to the dentist as a child. i was about 22 years old before i ever had my teeth cleaned. but my brother and my two step sisters were taken every 6 months like clockwork. i also have a cyst on my knee that has been there since i was very small. because i was never taken to the doctor to have it treated, it will be an in depth surgery to treat it now.

the first time i was kicked out of the house i was nine years old. i have a nine year old daughter and i can't even imagine her doing something that would cause me to throw my child out. i can't really remember a happy holiday because my stepfather always went out of his way to ruin things for me. i spent many christmases alone. she never bought anything for me. if i asked for anything, the answer was always "you better ask your dad because i'm not getting it!" in a super sarcastic tone. all the while i was watching my friends' mothers taking an interest in them; fixing their hair, buying them outfits, doing mother-daughter things. if i mentioned it, my mother always said "that stuff doesn't mean anything". if i had a friend over, she'd start a fight with me, or make fun of me, or try to embarrass me.

when i was 11, i started my period. i had to wad up toilet paper to use in place of a pad because i never had any. i suffered terrible cramps but she never offered to help me deal with them. i didn't have anyone to talk to about anything. i don't have any female relatives local and really, i would have been embarrassed to let anyone know just how uninterested in me my mother was. when i was in the hospital having my first baby, she treated me so badly that she was asked to leave by a nurse.

like i mentioned earlier, my mother has a reputation of being such a wonderful person who will do anything for anyone. what no one realizes is that she will do anything for anyone except me. i once had a friend of hers tell me that she didn't understand why i was such a terrible little brat when i had such a wonderful mother. it still bothers me now, after all these years.

now that i am grown, my mother wants us to be all friendly and buddy buddy with each other. she said something once about us being 'close'. i nearly choked. we are about as far from being close as we can get. i don't feel comfortable with her, i don't even like talking to her. to make things worse, she completely denies everything. she even denies kicking me out of the house once when in reality, it happened several times. after so many years of no help at all from her, she now expects me to do everything for her. if i refuse to do something, the guilt trip is amazing. my brother, who was doted on all those years, is now a complete loser. unemployed, in and out of prison, drug addict, you name it.

if something doesn't go her way, i get emails or texts or phone calls from her sisters and friends admonishing me for being such a bad daughter to my "wonderful mother". we took her on vacation with us last year. the entire time, literally, she tried to ruin things for me. from the first minute to the last. she was outraged and mystified as to why she wasn't invited this year...

my mother didn't physically abuse me but the emotional abuse is something that will stay with me forever. i cannot imagine bringing her into my home to care for her in her later years. i can hardly imagine caring for her at all.

i apologize for my rant but it helps... :)

rant away!

as far as your mother goes -- just say no. her sister and friends can do all the things for her that you're not doing because she doesn't deserve your interest!

Specializes in Med/Surg, Academics.

I have the opposite problem. My MIL is a sweet LOL when she isn't sundowning. Because of that, it sometimes makes my husband feel guilty about putting her in a home.

I don't feel guilty at all.

Before I go on, I have to say that my husband is an extraordinary man. He is the best thing that ever happened to me, and he is an excellent father, husband, and son. The subject of his mother--and the different perspectives that we have on her years here with us--is really our only point of contention.

The issue comes about when his guilt turns into a one-hour monologue--usually on the weekend when we go visit her. You see, he and I come from two very different places during the years that she lived with us. I know that, so I let him go on, but there comes a point (like last night), where I have to look at him and say, "I can't listen about your mother anymore. Please stop."

I was the primary caregiver. I solved the problems as her changing cognition and functioning warranted, took care of her, found care for her when I went to school, handled her finances, found an NH that would take her in an emergency situation. (Thirteen NHs with dementia units turned her down, mainly due to the nursing notes while she was in rehab. Apparently, expectations of client behavior are vastly different in ortho rehab vs. dementia units, but the dementia units failed to recognize that. They only saw, "needs 24/7 sitter.")

I spent all day with her--alone--when I wasn't in school. I called the plumber and handy man when she stuffed up the toilets and sinks with bits of toilet paper, eventually causing quite a bit of damage to our dining room ceiling over the bathroom. I scrubbed the rugs when she started becoming incontinent, and I bit my tongue when he would complain that I didn't get the smell all out. The police officers would look at me when they brought her home from the two times in four years that she wandered, although my husband was standing right next to me. I handled her sundowning the best I could, and he went outside to sit on the deck when he couldn't handle her yelling about wanting to go home anymore. I dealt with my own emotions when my father died, after I realized that my husband hadn't seen him in two years prior to his death because someone needed to be home with her when I went to visit my family once a year. (My family would joke that I secretly got a divorce and didn't tell them about it.)

So, when my husband focuses on his guilt after those weekend visits, I have to remind him of the way it really was, rather than the way he remembers it now.

She is a sweet LOL, but, even then, a nursing home was the right decision at the right time, and no busybody will ever be able to make me feel guilty for it. If my husband can't impose guilt upon me, a stranger can't do it either.

Specializes in Float.

Ahh RubyVee, the memories you've revived.......absolutely beautiful post. Just stop telling those outside people about your mom and you'll stop getting the judgmental replies. Talk only to your family, you know who your family is, all of your 'allnurses' friends and collegues, not neccessarily blood ties. Not ready yet to reveal my trauma but your post has given me the hope that only empathy can.

Specializes in LTC, assisted living, med-surg, psych.
Um... wow! I can totally identify with you. My mother also has the reputation of being such a wonderful person. When I was growing up, she never missed a chance to criticize me and tell me that I didn't care about anyone but myself. That still hurts me to this day because it couldn't have been farther from the truth. Instead, she was mostly describing herself. I never, ever came first in her life. Instead, I always came in dead last, behind everyone else whether it was other family members, my brother, her men, her friends, her classmates, acquaintances, probably strangers a couple of times, you name it. Like I mentioned earlier, my mother has a reputation of being such a wonderful person who will do anything for anyone. What no one realizes is that she will do anything for anyone except me. I once had a friend of hers tell me that she didn't understand why I was such a terrible little brat when I had such a wonderful mother. It still bothers me now, after all these years.

My mother didn't physically abuse me but the emotional abuse is something that will stay with me forever. I cannot imagine bringing her into my home to care for her in her later years. I can hardly imagine caring for her at all.

I apologize for my rant but it helps... :)

Whew..........are we long-lost siblings or something?

Seriously, my mother wasn't quite as awful as yours, but she was hypercritical and narcissistic, and NOBODY ever saw that side of her but my sister and me. She never really got old enough to be demented and in a nursing home (she died at 66), but she was pretty frail after my dad died from cancer, and required a great deal of attention once he was gone and all their "friends" (who were so much more important to her than I ever was) suddenly did the fast fade. It took my sister and me years of therapy to get her constant criticism and her sniping and her selfishness out of our systems; but eventually we both were able to go on to a place where we no longer needed her approval, and that was a great blessing because it granted us the freedom to be ourselves, and not an extension of her.

I hear you.....and I know the pain you feel. You are most definitely not alone. Please feel free to come and rant anytime!

Specializes in Gerontology, Case Management, Pediatrics.

Ruby,

Please ignore those ignorant people. If they knew anything about psychology, they would know you have an obligation to avoid toxic people as they are not good for your health.

I also have a mother who everyone outside the home thought was just so pious and holy. I had a man come up to me in church to advise me I was so lucky to have her for a mother-that her goodness helped him become a better catholic. lol She treated all of us badly-all 11 of us and all in the name of the church. She took religion to the fanatical level. She talked badly about her own sisters-who married a married man, who had children without being married-under the guise of teaching us what not to do. I think she forgot about the part where Jesus said judge not, lest you be judged. She does not have a forgiving or accepting bone in her body. After my dad's death, some cousins told us how their mother worried about the way she treated us. Back then no one thought to call DYFS. Two of her younger sisters told us she was mean to them when they were children and they hoped then that she would never have children.

Everyone wants to have a good relationship with their mother, but that is not always the case. We should not let guilt make our choices. We have an obligation to ourselves as well as our families to avoid negativity. Life is short-we need to be happy and content. :-)

Specializes in Hospice, ONC, Tele, Med Surg, Endo/Output.

Mom kicked me out of the house at 17 years old, regularly used filthy words with all of her children, allowed our father to beat her senseless for 16 years; she is basically a sociopath who functions well at work, but is a menace when anyone challenges her at home---has been this way her whole life. My sister and i are still reeling from the treatment we got as kids and adults; Mom told my sister and i that we lied when we said our grandfather had sex with us at a young age; as a result we've needed counseling, have had nervous breakdowns, have had failed marriages. I live 500 miles away from Mom. My four siblings live in the same city as her--all of them have a love/hate relationship with her. She meddles in all of their lives. I've already warned my sister that if Mom becomes demented, or needs hospitalization, that she and the other three siblings will have to depend on one another, because i will not help with my physical presence. I will help financially only, and i will tell my sister what to do over the phone. I have not seen my mother since the twin towers went down. I would love to see my siblings and all of their children, but word will leak out that i am in town, and i just can't bring myself to see my mother. Sorry, but that is what she gets for being so abusive. I just make sure i treat my patients and family members well. So, original poster, i completely understand where you are coming from.

Nurses tend to be "super heros" and do it all. It is impossible to do it all. I sure thought/think I can and I am now suffering from it. You did the right thing!! Do not defend yourself to anyone.

My dad had the big A and it was so difficult to see. He knew something was not right with him and he finally just gave up and starved himself to death. He was the best dad in the world and everyone enjoyed his company and advice. Impossible to take him home with our home being one bathroom, stairs, and we both work. Spent so much time running the 3 hr drive back and forth for issues.

Now he passed and I took mom in. We are going on18 months. She has no dementia BUT she is 91. It is not easy. In fact it is so hard. All I do is work two jobs now. I have to make sure meals are right as she will not eat frozen, and is picky. She needs her ice packs, she needs her meds 4-5 times/day and her treats at night. It goes on and on. But she is continent most of the time. And the doctor visits for all her ailments are more than I have gone to myself in my whole life. My husband is wonderful to have accepted this and he cares for her when I leave for work at 2 pm until I come home. We have no life. We have little privacy. My sisters seldom help. One took her for 6 nights in almost 18 months. Big deal. Can't do much. So now I am going to put her in respite care (huge $) for one month so that we can have a real vacation, two weeks in the tropics and two weeks back to work but able to not be responsible for an elder. The other day I received a e-mail from a friend at work who said "you look tired, get some rest". Life is still good.

Specializes in CCU, surgical acute, subacute.

That is so sad!!!! The worst part is people making you feel bad if you don't drop everything for your mom. You and I may not know each other but I'm telling you from the bottom of my heart you are NOT a bad person if you don't help your mom and if people try to make you feel that way, it's them not you. Ugh, this makes me sad. I offer to share my mom with everyone who either doesnt have one or might as well not have one so I'll share my mom with you too!!! :loveya: