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- Mar 8, '09 by AnnaMaryI work in general medicine in the UK. Same problems with pharmacy and every other department....horrific nurse patient ratios etc. I have never been so scared as I am when I am at work.
- Mar 8, '09 by SteveNNPProblems like yours are everywhere. I have worked in ER, Tele, PICU, Peds and NICU in various forms. The problems are the same. Understaffing, clueless management, lab losing samples to the point of it being routine (Um, no, I won't redraw blood from a 300 gram-er whose total blood volume is around 25 ml just 'cuz you can't find it....)
Pharmacy loses orders, takes forever to make stat drips, the aides disappear all day instead of stocking, etc. I have to take my patients personally to MRI/CT/nuclear and pray that someone else is watching my other kids, because there is no one else to go.....
I just take it in stride, waiting for the day that I will finish my NP and not have to deal with this same set of issues. Granted there will be different issues, but hopefully not nearly as many.
- Mar 8, '09 by BugalooQuote from eriksolnThank You, Thank You, Thank You!!!!!:wink2:Just my two cents:
Bugaloo and OP both work M/S. I dont think this is coincidence. I've dont M/S 3 1/2 years now, two as staff and the rest as a travel nurse. When I left my first job as a staff nurse to become a travel RN, I was pretty much done with nursing. Fed up with balanceing 8 patients on daylight, keeping everyone safe just to be told I was terrible at what I did because I didnt make time for a meeting with case management or I didnt realize pt. #7 was thirsty and their water pitcher was not "fresh". My attitude was "Hey, there is a nursing shortage, not a pt. or hospital shortage. You dont like how I do things, here is my two week notice, have fun replaceing me." That hospital is closed down now. Not because of me leaving, but because of a great number of people like me leaving.
Now, after working M/S as a travel nurse, I have come to the realization that M/S just is not for me. I certainly have seen things much better on different units, but I've seen them worse too. Everywhere I go, M/S is the part of the hospital that is just neglected and expectations are not at all realistic. I realize all units have their evils, but M/S has a very unique wickedness to it that can affect you emotionaly and physically.
Problem is, M/S units dont make money for hospitals. The other units do. So, you are a necessary evil and the care given to the majority of patients on the unit is of no concern to administration and management. They cant let it be known they feel this way, and will beat you over the brow on a daily basis to give the impression of having a desire for a well run M/S unit, but there is nothing in it for them and they will never spend money to make a M/S unit function properly.
My advice, dont give up. Find something outside of the M/S fire ring as soon as possible. In the meantime, bite your tongue at work and tredge water upstream putting up with it. When you get the opportunity to do better, do it with no regrets.
- Mar 8, '09 by AyvahOh, how I empathize with you. I had a horrible last two shifts. When the shifts just started, multiple people had very bad loads, and there are always admissions coming in so you know it will be worse than what the day starts off as. And the worst part about this.... is that management called off two nurses one of those days, and one nurse another one of those days, knowing were were starting off with terrible patient loads!
Management told one of my coworkers that her staying late to help stabilize a patient was not an excuse for her overtime.
Yes, there were a lot of tears these last few shifts.
I'm about ready to resign. I can't keep living like this. I feel its like the death of my dream, because I can't be the type of nurse I want to be. It is feeling dangerous at times too. I've been clinging to strands recently hoping this job will work out. I've spoken with management multiple times to no avail.
- Mar 8, '09 by dcurryI am so in agreement with you on the "hotel" thing. All we hear from management is how we are expected to give "excellent" (not good or great) care! Well, I do want to give excellent care to my patients, but I do not want to be kissing their butts all day long. Our managers are constantly "rounding" on the floor and reminding the patients to "let us know if there's anything we can do to make your stay here more comfortable". Yeah, I want to make them comfortable, but I also want them to treat me with respect. I think we have taken the customer service thing a little too far and we encourage patients to treat doctors and nurses like servants. I even had one patient the other day to ask me to "scratch her right butt cheek!!!!" Was anything wrong with her arms? Noooooo. Had one to tell me that she had been instructed to report me if she had to wait more than 10 minutes for her pain meds (which I could understand if she were my only patient). Do you hear and feel my sarcasm?
- Mar 8, '09 by BugalooQuote from dcurryYep! Or what about the one who calls out, "NURSE!!! Help Me!!!!". When you nearly break your neck running into the room, she says sweetly, "Can you change the channel for me?" Oh, you mean change the channel on the TV that is on the swing arm and the darn thing is five inches from your face? That TV?I am so in agreement with you on the "hotel" thing. All we hear from management is how we are expected to give "excellent" (not good or great) care! Well, I do want to give excellent care to my patients, but I do not want to be kissing their butts all day long. Our managers are constantly "rounding" on the floor and reminding the patients to "let us know if there's anything we can do to make your stay here more comfortable". Yeah, I want to make them comfortable, but I also want them to treat me with respect. I think we have taken the customer service thing a little too far and we encourage patients to treat doctors and nurses like servants. I even had one patient the other day to ask me to "scratch her right butt cheek!!!!" Was anything wrong with her arms? Noooooo. Had one to tell me that she had been instructed to report me if she had to wait more than 10 minutes for her pain meds (which I could understand if she were my only patient). Do you hear and feel my sarcasm?
- Mar 8, '09 by AyvahQuote from sunray12hospital nurses are asked to care for a large load of very sick people, safely. it is near impossible what they ask of us to do sometimes. many of us feel guilty that we can't meet the impossible demands; we are upset because we can't practice nursing the way we want to, because it has immediate, visible, negative effects on the patient. we are angry and upset at the system that we can't give the patients better, and we have patients, families, management and docs who don't understand, already asking/demanding us to do more/faster. multiple people give up their lunch breaks already, some even giving up bathroom breaks because of the guilt. we don't need another straw to break the camel's back on that one. it is sad that we need to support each other to go eat once in a 12-16 hour shift. (see http://allnurses.com/general-nursing...no-372337.html)
^^ well although the tag line of this board is nurses helping nurses i would say that this board is about 90% unhappy nurse, nursing student, etc. you have to spend a lot of hours troweling through this board to find people who are happy with what they do, so i see no evidence where people were prevented from venting. i also don't see how internet handles representing people you can't see could make you feel guilty about how you feel. your feelings are your feelings and you don't have to apologize for them. i'm of the opinion that no one should be miserable about their work. but if the guilt factor is there it is probably within - not something any of us have the power to make you feel.
just remember before you post: be supportive if at all possible :d
and likewise you guys should be supportive of the newbies and all the people who come by because they're pre-nursing, etc. some of us are old enough to analyze and extrapolate from what we read here but imagine if you were a teenager logging in here to research a career in nursing - this could be scary. for example op says mcdonalds is looking better and better every day. okay so she's upset and when people are upset they may say things they don't mean. but seriously - working for 1/4th or less the wage of what she's making now with no benefits and no job security looks preferable to being a licensed and experienced professional?? maybe this statement is qualified by the fact that she has a rich so and doesn't need the money - but most women in today's world have bills to pay and children to feed and shelter so objectively speaking working at mcdonalds cannot be better than nursing. just my 2.5 cents. as i said - no one should be miserable in their work, so i hope you find something where you are happier. at least you should be able to use your nursing license to do that.
this is not a 1 day a year vent, there are serious problems in hospital nursing which affect the lives of our patients, and negatively affect the health of the remaining nurses. i absolutely mean everything i have written here, even when i am not upset. that is demeaning to say that we don't mean what we are saying right now due to being upset. saying that i took care of 8 patients the other day, including one that would probably be going to the icu (per the doc) is a fact, not venting because i'm mad. the icu has a 1:2 ratio. please tell me how i am supposed to care for him along with all my other patients, who had problems themselves, safely? the doc and the charge knew what was going on. all i could do was hope and pray he didn't die on me while i ran around like a chicken with my head cut off. in none of my other jobs outside of hospital nursing have i cried at work, and seen multiple others cry, and spoke with multiple others who have had to go on antidepressant or antianxiety medication (and this is at 2 different hospitals). these are facts, not making stuff up because we are upset. money is not everything when it comes to work. no, of course working at mcdonalds is not ideal, but it is the fact is that she is thinking about non-nursing being a better working environment than nursing itself.
from what i've observed over 4 years on this board, there is a lot of support for nursing students here. there is also a special nursing student section on this board.
there are 4 nurses i work with who have told me that they feel trapped because they are the breadwinner in their house, their spouse is laid off, and they need the job to keep their house. they are miserable but they keep working through it. jobs have drastically dried up because places are using the recession cover to have hiring freezes. any teenager looking at nursing needs to face the reality of it instead of thinking its a fairy tale job. no, our voices must not be restrained.
- Mar 8, '09 by Midwest4meQuote from bugaloowell i am certainly not going to flame you. i so agree; patients are customers and if we don't do what they want when they want and how they want, we are made to feel (by patient and management) that it's neglect. in our mental hospital, we not only have to deal with unreal accusations from patients but unreal accusations from staff who are retaliating against certain staff members. to protect ourselves lately from the slanderous/ridiculous accusations, we've decided and implemented our own little policy of making 2-3 staff members go in to care for a patient. think this is extreme? it's necessity!wow! your job sounds just like my job! do we work at the same place, on the same floor? i, too, work on a horrible med-surg floor and am currently looking for something less stressful. i started to transfer to another floor, then realized that part of the problem is the hospital. no matter where i transfer within the hospital, i believe that it will be similar because administration just does not care!
we cry at work, we have highly acute patients with high nurseatient ratios, fight with pharmacy and doctors. i swear....if we could just be nurses vs having to fight with everyone just to perform our job duties, it would be nice.
i have a feeling that this is going to be normal practice for hospitals from here on out. sad, but true. it has been echoed here on an before. hospitals are being run as if they were 5-star hotels. we no longer have "patients"; we have "customers". and customers do not like to listen to patient teaching, or listen to nurses or doctors. they want what they want when they want it! now! how dare you try to keep them on the floor, much less in their room. they have rights, don't you know?
i am sorry i am venting, but i am right there with you. i am very disappointed that nursing has turned into such a circus!
i have a feeling that i am going to get flamed!
- Mar 8, '09 by SuesquatchRNHeh. I was just feeling sorry for myself because I don't work with patients any longer and don't feel much like a nurse.
I'm over it.
- Mar 8, '09 by Midwest4meQuote from suesquatchrnhahahah thanks for the laugh; i needed that!heh. i was just feeling sorry for myself because i don't work with patients any longer and don't feel much like a nurse.
i'm over it.