I cant argue anymore friends........ - page 4
well the thing I have been dreading more than anything else has happend I have been taken off my permanent nightshift and am being forced to rotate to days .... wouldnt be a big deal except I went... Read More
Jan 18, '03Good for you.
It sounds to me as though you are doing everything reasonable, and more, to both respect your own needs and to give the facility an opportunity to deal with some of its own problems.
You'll do very well wherever you go, IMHO.
Jan 18, '03Wendy,
I kinda went through the same sort of situation not long ago..
had a unit manager that I had NO respect for, was doing the job of Charge Nurse without the pay (knowing there was an open position for a CN) and absolutely LOVED my coworkers. The coworkers are what kept me there as long as i stayed. I finally, though, got tired of being screwed to make his budget look good and so that he didn't have to make a move..so i transferred to another unit..
guess what? I love my new coworkers too...and my boss rocks!
get out that resume'...
Jan 18, '03Originally posted by Sandra m. Took
Wendy- I think give them the flick ............ BTW we have nursing shortages over here too!! So use your skills and travel !!
Jan 18, '03Wendy
Like Fab4Fan, I'm also from the Philly area, so if you are seriously considering relocating, please feel free to email me privately and I would be more than happy to give you the "dope" on the good, the bad, and the ugly down this way There are lots of hospitals here, and also many schools of nursing. I agree with the others--dust off that resume and shop around--you deserve better!
Good luck to you and keep us up to date on what's happening
Jan 19, '03thanks for the support/understanding and of course advice..
I'm not exactly in position to just up and move right now, although I am thinking of it for this summer.....thats kinda my goal actually ...
right now I'm hanging tight, spoke with some ppl at work who want to grieve this whole situation, myself included, so I've written my letter, will submit it on monday and see whats goin on, in the meantime I'm workin on my resume, which I completley suck at so I have harrassed some lovely ppl here into helping me (thanks stargazer, cheque is in the mail heh) and am getting things organized in the event that my needs are not going to be met - which is my guess , sadly.
Jan 19, '03Glad your sticking to your principles - Good luck am thinking of your -
Also am sending some magic sparkly fairy dust that is garanteed to make your day happy and your life perfect -- via the computer optic fibres -- I wish l could but positive thoughts will have to do in the mean time - however just check your fibre optics and see if these is some sparkly dust it just might be there !!!
Jan 19, '03Sorry to hear it sis. Those b@stards! Time for you to move on. I can't imagine you'd have trouble finding work elsewhere. People are usually crying for night nurses.
Jan 19, '03Sometimes, other people make the decision to move on pretty easy don't they?
Take these changes and move on Wendy! try something new and come here LOL!
no, serious, obviously this is the time of your life, to change workplaces and who knows what follows.................
Jan 19, '03Wendy, if you want to eyeball jobs available in BC, go into search and www.bcnu.org. Two entries will pop up. Click onto "job vacancies", then Healthmatch BC and follow the 'point and click" instructions. I'm at the happy stage in my life where I am looking at retirement Sept 1, 2006 (60 years). So, I said to myself, what are you going to do after you quit the hospital? Have heard nice reports about TCM Telecare Management Inc., a Vancouver company, so have included their job description. Don't get excited about the "date", they're looking for experienced RNs, period.
Job Title Nursing Representative
Start Date January 3, 2003
Position Status Full time or Part time
Remuneration To be discussed at interview
I hear that the wages are good.
Hours of work, type of shifts available Evenings: 4,6,8 and 10 hour shifts
Notice no dayshifts, could go to school
Job Description Nursing Representatives handle non-emergency incoming calls from residents of BC in a call centre environment which operates 7/24 all year through. RNs use evidence based triage software, sound nursing judgement and experience to assist callers better manage their personal health.
Education Required Diploma in Nursing
Experience required (no. of years) ER, or community, or acute care or combination. Minimum of 3 years nursing experience.
Qualifications required Current registration with the RNABC. Computer literacy and keyboarding skills of 30 wpm.
Comments TCM Telecare Management Inc. is a subsidiary company of E-Comm that staffs and manages the BC NurseLine call centre. TCM provides nursing staff with supportive management, professional mentoring and an ergonomic working environment.
You might want to check and see if the Toronto area has something similar.
Also, BC Childrens Hospital has self-scheduling.
Jan 19, '03Meant to mention that I know what you mean about dayshift. I work permanent evenings, have for 11 years now. In the States, I worked permanent nights. I've always maintained that if God meant for me to get up at an ungodly hour of the morning to go to work, She would have made me a fisherman for a living.
When we acquired a new NM 7 years ago, she decided that I should be working days/eves, just like everyone else in the department. Despite the fact that I also was a university student (MEdu) and a type 2 diabetic. I'm inclined to the view that she just didn't like a member of her department to be better educated than she is. Anyway, it took 2 things to convince her to change her mind. First, one of my co-workers, my former evening shift supervisor, to literally "corner" her between the narcotic box and the med counter and inform her that under no circumstances was she (Mary) going to work additional evening shifts, which would happen if I was taken off of permanent evenings. The second thing was to be cornered by my GP and informed that my blood sugars and HgA1C were staying "below diabetic levels" because of my steady shift and was she "going to be responsible for screwing up Katherine's diabetes". Guess not.
Happily for me, after 7 years of putting up with this woman, she's just announced that she is leaving and will be setting up a similar unit in the much-ballyhooed private hospital so beloved by our DUI Premier.Last edit by jurbyjunk on Jan 19, '03
Jan 19, '03Wendy, I've read your posts for a long time now and you make really good points. I hope they fix everything!
The only problem I have with this situation in general (not yours- you have more things in your favor!) is that people who go to school or have kids or even diabetics shouldn't get scheduling preference over any one else. Taking a job means accepting the responsibilities of the job. It's not fair to expect other people to uphold your obligations.
If someone takes a job as a "day/night" rotator then says "I can only work days" that's just wrong. No matter what the reason is, it's still wrong.
There was a similar thread last month about Christmas/holiday scheduling- especially regarding how people with kids think I should lose my Christmas with my family instead of them. Nuh-uh- they took a job that requires holidays just like I did. We all have things we want to do outside of work.
Wendy, you have a union contract that spells out what they can ask you to do. Be noisy, make them stick to the letter of the contract. But Jurbyjunk, I don't know if you have a point or not. If your job description has been changed from eves to rotate, you have a valid gripe IMHO. If you were supposed to be rotating all this time and haven't been, then I don't think you have a solid position. I'm surprised that there aren't lots of day shifters who are happy to trade with you, but if you took the job knowing it required rotation, you should have to keep your obligations.
I can completely understand your wanting to keep your diabetes under control- but I just get irked by people that take jobs knowing what the requirements are then ask for special treatment that inconveniences other staff. I've been told I have to work all the holidays and that I can't have days I want off for classes or whatever because so and so can't work that day or has kids or whatever. It isn't fair for people to expect special treatment at the expense of others who have their own needs, too. I have no problem with people who make switches or find their own coverage. But if we worked together and were both supposed to rotate, I wouldn't do straight days for your convenience unless it was good for me, too. And I shouldn't be forced to because you're a diabetic (or because someone has a class or someone had a baby or whatever.)
But of course, that all depends on whether or not you took a eve or rotating job.Last edit by ratchit on Jan 19, '03
Jan 20, '03I dont expect special treatment
I expect proper treatment in accordance with my union, which includes the option to use innovative scheduling and does not allow for the schedule/rotation to change at the whim of the unit administrator
she is not a law unto herself, nor is she the puppetmaster of all us nurses...
I have a problem with the fact that I had been granted permanent nights, to the benefit of yes myself but also my facility and now its just being taken away from me without any notice whatsoever....
I also dont believe that anyone should get preferential treatment, I do believe however that in some cases schedules will have to be altered, in the case of a diabetic person who is having trouble with their health my suggestion is to go to occupational health and visit your family dr and get them to write a letter on your behalf and have your schedule altered that way, by doing that none of your co workers can comment at all about the situation cuz its not as if youre being given special treatment.
and no one should have to work every holiday - kids or not - everyone has family and friends and should be able to spend time with them..
my other problem is that sure there are ample ppl who want to switch with me but now by changing my schedule she has convienently put those ppl to work on my days off, making a shift change impossible..
hospitals pressure you to go and further your education and then when push comes to shove you are not supported in any way, I know it wont earn me any popularity points to bring this up , but thats what I'm doing tomorrow...
Jan 20, '03A loss of a good nurse would defiantly be a loss, their loss not yours. School is way more important, don't be afraid to walk on this one. Best of luck in whatever you decide to do!