How much should nurses be paid? - page 2

As a registered nurse of sixteen years plus a few months, I think I should be making at least fifty dollars an hour base pay. Aaaaaand......your thoughts on what you feel you should be paid for... Read More

  1. by   Rapheal
    I would be happy with my rate of pay $21.85 if they would pay me double time for every lunch and break that I am not able to take because of short staffing, and also double time for every hour I work over. It could work like this: The nurses schedule their breaks and lunches to cover for each other. When they send up too many admits or a patient has trouble and the other nurse cannot cover- I call the nsg. supervisor and ask them to cover my break. When they tell me "no" I fill out a time sheet for this missed lunch or break and am reimbursed.

    What do you think? Wouldn't this be fair? But I doubt that my institution would go for this. They would label me a troublemaker.
    So I guess I will wait until after they have labeled me a troublemaker to bring this up.
  2. by   live4today
    Originally posted by mattsmom81
    ........Nice to see you posting again Renee! I had a feeling you would notice the changes in our jobs over the past 10 yrs, as well as the difference in our 'customers' demands. It hasn't changed for the better has it. Hang in there girlfriend!!

    Hi mattsmom

    Yes indeedy! The changes are so unreal that's for sure! :chuckle
  3. by   pickledpepperRN
    Originally posted by Rapheal
    I would be happy with my rate of pay $21.85 if they would pay me double time for every lunch and break that I am not able to take because of short staffing, and also double time for every hour I work over. It could work like this: The nurses schedule their breaks and lunches to cover for each other. When they send up too many admits or a patient has trouble and the other nurse cannot cover- I call the nsg. supervisor and ask them to cover my break. When they tell me "no" I fill out a time sheet for this missed lunch or break and am reimbursed.

    What do you think? Wouldn't this be fair? But I doubt that my institution would go for this. They would label me a troublemaker.
    So I guess I will wait until after they have labeled me a troublemaker to bring this up.
    That IS the law here. Unfortunately too many nurses don't even put in for for fear of being labeled 'troublemaker' or 'complaining'.
    On units where alsmot all nurses put in for it they staff better. True!
  4. by   NurseAngie
    Originally posted by cheerfuldoer
    Not a bad thought, eltrip!

    And....roxannekkb......I'll fly anywhere for a nursing job that would pay me $75.00/hour! Wow! That's what I'm talking about!

    I sit here on my day off work thinking about how much we give as nurses and how little we receive in return (on a financial and benefits basis that is).

    If it weren't for the patients that touch my heart, I don't think I'd keep doing nursing at all because I have had some very rude family members make me want to quit. I've had patients who want and want and want like they are at the Hyatt Regency. And, it is really really bad when nurses don't support nurses.

    What will it take to increase the money power in the realm of nursing? It's obvious more education hasn't moved that mountain yet, so where do we go from here nurses???????
    Hi there...ya said it all in this post! Esp. about patients that think they're on holiday at the Hyatt!!!

    ~Angie
  5. by   live4today
    NurseAngie........the worst part of it all is the hospital's support that "childish behavior". And....if a visiting family member or patient says a nurse is "rude or bad news", and the nurse says "she/he is wrong about that"......guess who is believed???

    It's almost as if you have to have witnesses to your nursing care who will vouch for your conduct or treatment of visiting family members and patients.

    That's pathetic! There are four words that I hear voiced a lot where I work and those words are:

    The Budget and PR (Patient Relations).

    You do a bazillion things right, and get little to no recognition, but do one thing "against PR" as the patient/visiting family members tell it, and your doomed...hands smacked...receive a disciplinary measure of sort as if you've killed somebody.

    I had a visiting family member call me rude when it was he that was rude. I was NOT believed UNTIL my patient's family members present at the time of the encounter told my nurse manager that I was not rude, but the visiting family member who was very rude to me. That alone made me want to walk out and never return.

    If nurses can't be trusted with patients and their family without having to have a witness present on the nurses behalf to say the nurse was not what the patient or family member said, then why are we there taking care of them? We need video cameras on us to protect ourselves and microphones to record what we say while at work. Has it come to this?
  6. by   Cynthiann
    Wow, is this what I have to look forward to after I graduate?

    Those kind of things would make me want to walk out and never return, too. These are the things that make me second guess if I should become a nurse.....
  7. by   live4today
    Cynthiann.....as very well you should rethink your decision to become a nurse. The pay is lousy, the nurse/patient ratio is beyond dangerous levels, the nurses receive no respect from higher ups, some patients, and some family members ---- there are some good ones on board in all three areas however ------

    The scariest part is I am seeing in the hospital "Reality T.V." in the flesh where we could be a real part of the t.v. show called COPS as nurses get sued, arrested for indangering patients, and fired for not being believed.

    People are carrying video cameras with them to protect them from the law these days when they are stopped by police, and neighbors are video taping other neighbors whom they suspect of child or spousal abuse, etc., so now that arena needs to be moved into the hospitals to protect nurses and patients from internal and external harassment.

    Now........what should nurses REALLY be paid to put up with this type of unfair treatment?????
  8. by   EmeraldNYL
    Originally posted by Mel D
    Good post, Anthony. I agree.
    Yeah, me too!! Great post MICU RN, I couldn't have said it any better.
  9. by   Hardknox
    Well, Renee, they couldn't pay me enough! I got out. I was making $33.00/hr with 21 years experience. Nothing is worth the abuse out there today. And this is what the nursing shortage is all about. There are plenty of nurses out there, just not enough who will continue to put up with the hostile, unsafe condtions in the hospitals today.

    I wish you luck. You're a better woman than I am.
  10. by   VickyRN
    Now........what should nurses REALLY be paid to put up with this type of unfair treatment?????
    Ask this question again in about 10 years.... this is when the demographic shift of the current "nursing shortage" is really going to hit the fan.
  11. by   susanmary
    Originally posted by Mel D
    Good post, Anthony. I agree.
    Ditto. Sue
  12. by   live4today
    Hi Hardknox

    The worst thing about this so called "nursing shortage" is knowing there are so many nurses in the United States not working because of the conditions, and the only way Admin thinks the problem can be resolved is to go overseas and recruit nurses who will eventually learn the abuse nurses here put up with. Once they become westernized to the reality of USA nursing, they'll join us in our cause to rectify the problem.....hopefully. Nurses aren't stupid for long are we? :chuckle
  13. by   roxannekkb
    The registry was really afraid of losing the case if they failed to supply a nurse, and they had very few "baby" nurses that they could fall back on if the regulars weren't available. So they were willing to pay what I asked. Hmm, had I known they were serious, I would've asked for $150/hr!!!

    As far as nurses being paid per procedure, rather than being bundled in with the laundry and food trays--well, I've seen the exact opposite. Nurses are doing procedures that were once the realm of doctors, and the doctors billed for it! They got paid for a fancy procedure, and the nurse just got her hourly rate. That's even worse than being part of the laundry, I think. I questioned nurses who were doing this, but they just thought it was fun to do stuff like put in lines, and didn't seem to care that not only weren't they getting reimbursed, but the doctor was getting paid for their labor.

    :hatparty:

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