Held Down and Forced to Take The FLu Shot - page 2

Allright guys, here is my problem: My mom works as a CNA?CMA in a nursing home. The nursing home is forcing people to take flu shots this year. My mom has never taken a flu shot, she is just a... Read More

  1. by   busy-bee
    I would call 911 if any of them touched me. This facility really doesn't know what the heck they are doing....if they do this to the employees then it makes me wonder how they handled a resident refusing. They have the right to refuse and I am sure some verbally refused, did they give them the injection anyway? I would call the media, even the military couldn't do this you.
  2. by   ebear
    That is unbelievable! She needs to get a list of witnesses and a list of those who were forced to take the shot, get out of there, and go find an attorney to press charges. This facility also needs to be reported to the authorities and licensing boards.
  3. by   prmenrs
    Since this is assault and battery, call the police ASAP!
  4. by   Nurse_FF_EMT
    Pretty much everybody that got assaulted so far is to scared for their job to call 911 and report them. The few that are standing up (my mom included) are just waiting for them to try this on them on Monday. They WILL call 911 and press charges. The reporting to the boards and agencies is in progress.
  5. by   flashpoint
    :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire

    I would be furious. My facility made the decision that anyone who refuses a flu shot and calls in with diagnosed influenza, will be given an unexcused absense. I don't agree with the decision, but the other people on the leadership team out voted me. People with allergies are exempt. I wonder what they are going to do with me...I've had a temp every time they have tried to give me mine...I feel fine, but my temp is always over that 99.9 mark that our medical director says is too high to get poked.
  6. by   ready4crna?
    DUDE, if this seriously happened to other employees, guess who now owns a long term care facility?

    Call the police.
  7. by   gonzo1
    I am very anti lawyer and anti suing people, but in this case I would say sue their butts off and laugh all the way to the bank. This is so over the top I can't believe it. Call 911, press charges and make some money off these perverts.
  8. by   danissa
    Jees Oh...ASSAULT!!! Get her out of there, and file with who you need to right away!!:angryfire They Assaulted her!!!!!!
  9. by   EmmaG
    Quote from ready4crna?
    DUDE, if this seriously happened to other employees, guess who now owns a long term care facility?

    Call the police.
    Exactly.

    BTW, your thread title is incorrect. This isn't an ethical issue--- it's a CRIMINAL issue.

    Holy crap...
  10. by   leslie :-D
    i would be bringing in an official letter from an attorney, citing the criminal implications that have taken place, as well as those that haven't (yet).

    and tell mom not to take that seat on monday!
    she'll have an easier route of exit, if they even attempt it.
    good God.

    leslie
  11. by   pagandeva2000
    I am HORRIFIED to read such a thing! Each person should have the option to decline, similar to those that refuse to take the Hep B vaccination. They sign a waiver saying that they are aware of the risks, and therefore, take responsibility if they are infected with Hep B.

    What concerns me is that CNAs have a harder time finding employment and the work is backbreaking enough as it is. If this is a small town, then, they may be blackballed when they apply elsewhere. This is insulting and humiliating to have grown people who are parents, grandparents, and loved by someone to be forced to do something they are against. It is the principal of the matter, not the fact that it is considered to be protection to the public. We have the right not to take anything we do not want. This is totally against what nursing is about; autonomy for the patient and the right to make choices.

    If your mother is able, I would suggest to also find other employment if this is possible. I am boiling with anger at this very moment by reading such crap (I have other more graphic curse words that would get me thrown out of here if I started to spew them). PLEASE KEEP US UPDATED!!!
  12. by   pagandeva2000
    Quote from NurseyBaby'05
    :yeahthat:

    Not to mention looking for a new job. Why wait for the employer to call her down to the office? Get the hell out of there now!
    Unfortunately, it is not as easy as that; to search for another job. What if this woman was there for a long time and close to retirement? Or has a 401K investment? Also, it is harder to start at a new place, with unfamiliar surroundings as we get older. This is not to say that I disagree; heck, I would be out on the first thing smoking. But, I also know that (at least in my area), most new CNAs are hired per diem, or part time, and it takes awhile to be brought in as a full time employee. To start from scratch is devastating for some people. Also, (again, just speaking from my area), CNA positions are harder to find except for agencies, which have no unions or insurance.

    This is a question for the OP; is there a union at this facility? If so, what are they saying? This is almost as bad at the case with some factory (a movie was made out of a true story), where the women were forced to be sterilized or lose their jobs. Most of them opted to do that because there were not many jobs in this disadvantaged area, even though they didn't want to. What has nursing come to, when this can happen??
  13. by   FireStarterRN
    I have a question: If flu shots are so effective, and all the residents get them, and anyone else who wants them gets them, then what is the big threat to those people who have chosen the vaccination from those who choose to opt out?

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