Death bed visions - page 5

Hello everybody. I can not think of a better place to ask this questions other than a forum full of what I believe to be Gods angels in human form. In your experience taking care of the injured... Read More

  1. by   Simplepleasures
    I had an experience only once in all the years of nursing, maybe my eyes WERE SHUT to such phenomena.In my experience,I was doing my checks on a dying little old lady who had been unresponsive all that shift, as I was bending over her to check her respirations, she opened her eyes wide and said in a very clear, but puzzeled voice, "where was I just now?", duh, dumb me , I answered "oh you've been here all along", she insisted, "no I was somewhere else".I shouldv'e asked her to describe the place, but she lapsed back into unresponsiveness shortly thereafter and died within an hour.
  2. by   leslie :-D
    Quote from ingelein
    I had an experience only once in all the years of nursing, maybe my eyes WERE SHUT to such phenomena.In my experience,I was doing my checks on a dying little old lady who had been unresponsive all that shift, as I was bending over her to check her respirations, she opened her eyes wide and said in a very clear, but puzzeled voice, "where was I just now?", duh, dumb me , I answered "oh you've been here all along", she insisted, "no I was somewhere else".I shouldv'e asked her to describe the place, but she lapsed back into unresponsiveness shortly thereafter and died within an hour.
    that's funny.
    when i started out in hospice, i answered the same way.
    now when pts ask me this (which many, many do), i tell them their spirit and soul are preparing for their journey, and that there is nothing to be frightened of.
    hardly any are ever frightened when this happens.
    rather, it brings them much peace.

    leslie
  3. by   Simplepleasures
    Quote from methylene
    You don't want to disparage anyone's beliefs but "no atheists in foxholes" sure as heck does.

    http://www.atheistfoxholes.org/
    http://www.maaf.info/
    SORRY, foot in mouth disease again.
  4. by   hypocaffeinemia
    Quote from earle58
    people that have experienced near-death, they are always, always changed forever.
    it doesn't matter if they were agnostic, atheist or religious- it changes them all.
    seeing really is believing.
    Always?
    Everyone?


    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...18/ai_16139352
    http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/denn...t06_index.html
    http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf095/sf095m99.htm

    That was just a two minute google search- I had no vested fascination with this topic as it seems fairly cut and dry for me.
  5. by   pagandeva2000
    Quote from ingelein
    Leslie, I think we may be kindred spirits here on earth.If we never meet on this earthly place, how about meeting up in the hereafter, just to say howdy nice knowin' you on earth and allnurses.
    Quote from earle58
    my place or yours?

    i'll be on level 1.

    leslie

    Can I come, too?? I'll be at the after hours cloud...
  6. by   Simplepleasures
    I just want to say though that there are more "foxholes" in life other than with a military meaning.
  7. by   Simplepleasures
    Quote from pagandeva2000
    Can I come, too?? I'll be at the after hours cloud...
    YES!! Lets make a pact to meet up in the hereafter, all the allnurses bunch, wouldn't it be a hoot?!
  8. by   hypocaffeinemia
    Quote from ingelein
    I just want to say though that there are more "foxholes" in life other than with a military meaning.
    What exactly are you implying? I know the statement is a metaphor, but what better way to invalidate a smear than with literal evidence to the contrary?
  9. by   Simplepleasures
    Quote from methylene
    What exactly are you implying? I know the statement is a metaphor, but what better way to invalidate a smear than with literal evidence to the contrary?
    Oi vey, I thought I had cellaphane skin.I mean just this, there are situations in life in which there have been reports about people who have not believed in the existance of a greater being or the hereafter and have changed their mind at the moment of impending death.They may be wrong, they may be right, its just an observance.

    I guess I am implying that there comes a time in life that we realize we just may be wrong, maybe Im wrong now, maybe your premise is correct,who knows?
    Last edit by Simplepleasures on May 9, '08
  10. by   leslie :-D
    Quote from methylene
    Always?
    Everyone?


    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...18/ai_16139352
    http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/denn...t06_index.html
    http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf095/sf095m99.htm

    That was just a two minute google search- I had no vested fascination with this topic as it seems fairly cut and dry for me.
    yes, everyone i've encountered, it has been a life changing experience.
    everyone.

    in your first link, it still changed her life.

    "But I did find it moving and powerful, and I have recognized that the only thing that is important in life is what we do here and now."

    the other links merely tried to explain the rationales of the tunnel and lights.

    even if 98% of nde's are life-altering, not too shabby, eh?

    leslie
  11. by   hypocaffeinemia
    Quote from ingelein
    Oi vey, I thought I had cellaphane skin.I mean just this, there are situations in life in which there have been reports about people who have in life not believed in the existance of a greater being or the hereafter and have changed their mind at the moment of impending death.They may be wrong, they may be right, its just an observance, relax, it is NOT meant to say that their original belief was flawed .Sheesh.

    I guess I am implying that there comes a time in life that we realize we just may be wrong, maybe Im wrong now, maybe your premise is correct,who knows?
    Sorry I seem touchy, but reverse the claims and gauge how you'd feel. Also, common sayings that seem totally inoffensive only seem inoffensive because you rarely come across members of the target minority it applies to, like claiming you've been gypped out of money-- How often does the person you're talking to claim to be a gypsy while taking grave offense at your comment?


    A good portion of the deathbed recant stories are fictitious and are spread as mere apologia in order to devalue and belittle non-believers. See, for example, Darwin's deathbed story.

    There are, indeed, cases of non-believers having spectacular conversions at near death. Coincidentally, many go on to write apologia regarding how bitter they were as a non-believer and how they've found God and sell millions. Not having read any such books (due to disinterest), I can't help but to remain skeptical of both claim and motive, but que sera sera, right?
  12. by   hypocaffeinemia
    Quote from earle58
    yes, everyone i've encountered, it has been a life changing experience.
    everyone.

    in your first link, it still changed her life.

    "But I did find it moving and powerful, and I have recognized that the only thing that is important in life is what we do here and now."

    the other links merely tried to explain the rationales of the tunnel and lights.

    even if 98% of nde's are life-altering, not too shabby, eh?

    leslie
    I didn't mean to say they aren't life-altering. I could only imagine they have to be. What I was saying was that not everybody attributes their experiences to supernatural origins.
  13. by   Simplepleasures
    Everyone has a right to their belief system and we all need to be more sensitive to the possibility of negating anyones personal experience or belief system, I try not to do this, but alas I am still human,that is until I enter that tunnel, and hope and pray to come out at the other end in something other than the OR.

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