called in sick, nurse manager calling back (inappropriate tactics?) - page 4

My husband and I work together as RNs on the same unit (ICU) and we work the same schedule. No problems on that front so far between us, staff, or management. Neither of us has called in sick since... Read More

  1. Visit  Been there,done that profile page
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    NM wore him down. No way should he have let that happen.
    He deserves a sick day.. ICU patients deserve not to have a nurse with pathogens .. exposing them in a fragile state.
    BostonTerrierLoverRN likes this.
  2. Visit  Kooky Korky profile page
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    Quote from Altra
    Completely inappropriate. I've never worked anywhere where that would happen ... but if I were to get such a call, MY next calls would be to human resources and to my manager's boss.
    not if you want to keep your job
  3. Visit  aileenve profile page
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    What a nerve! Thats why you have caller ID
  4. Visit  Altra profile page
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    Quote from Kooky Korky
    not if you want to keep your job
    Kooky Korky, I know you are a nurse with many years' experience, and it saddens me that you continue to work in environments driven by a culture of fear.
  5. Visit  mappers profile page
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    First off, I agree with everyone that this was inappropriate behavior.

    But just as a devils advocate...we as employees need to make sure that we don't complain and b*tch when fellow employees call in sick. I had a management position once where I was in charge of staffing. An employee would call in and the other staff would be angry at ME for that. What was I supposed to do? Drive by their house and drag them in? I was just horribly frustrated when people would complain out the wazoo about being short-staffed when someone else called in, but heaven forbid you didn't honor their own sick day.

    Not saying any of you do this. Just check yourself next time you work short and don't complain about the sick person or the manager having to deal with them.
    monkeybug likes this.
  6. Visit  redhead_NURSE98! profile page
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    Um this is like the manager calling to discuss another coworker's sick day (HR issues) with you. That is exactly what the NM did. I see that you've already declined this advice, but I seriously would discuss this with the NM that this is completely inappropriate. I would be INCENSED if my manager talked to my husband about my illness, even if we did work together. As a coworker your husband's illness should be none of your concern! Totally DISGUSTED that someone's call off would be treated this way.
  7. Visit  jbaggins profile page
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    Quote from Kooky Korky
    not if you want to keep your job
    It's true; we are employed at-will. No union
  8. Visit  BlueDevil,DNP profile page
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    Not to derail, but I simply cannot fathom not having a home telephone. I guess if you really cannot afford it, try this: get the $10 track phone and use that for the home phone. Only provide that number to your work place, and then don't answer it, lol. Let them leave a message and return the call at your convenience. I truly do not believe text messages are acceptable for professional communications. Disclaimer: I don't send text messages to anyone anyway, and I suppose that is another thread.

    I do think when we habitually choose this sort of informal and unprofessional communication behavior as the norm, we invite more unprofessional conduct on their part. I suggest you raise the bar, and then hold them to higher standards as well. None of this text messaging nonsense. Real, professional, adult communique required. If they want something from you, they have to ask you, personally, and politely. If they should be unable to reach you to speak with you directly and make their request in a manner that facilitates clear dialogue, offering an opportunity for questions and answers as well as compromise, then they should make other arrangements.

    If you opt to accept the status quo because it is easier than addressing the problem and taking steps to remedy the issues at hand, I will refrain from commenting "told ya so" on your next thread on the same or similar subject.
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  9. Visit  squatmunkie_RN profile page
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    I wouldn't have come in. Vomiting and diarrhea? Pfft...I'd be annoyed that a co-worker would come like that! Not something I want to catch. The NM will always do that to the folks she thinks she will allow her to get away with it. I wouldn't have answered my phone. He called in. The deed is done. Find a supplemental. Or she needs to take pt's.

    Since he caved in once, expect her to do it to BOTH of y'all next time either one of you calls in sick.

    EDIT:
    I ONLY have a cell, the NM and the hospital have the #. Why pay for 2 phones? Land lines are things of the past. My parents didn't get one until my dad got a PPM a while back.
    SweettartRN and SoldierNurse22 like this.
  10. Visit  kcmylorn profile page
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    I can't believe someone hasn't physically attacked one of these managers yet! Heaven knows, they are asking for it! back in the day, someone would have given then a good hard slap in the face.
  11. Visit  BostonTerrierLoverRN profile page
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    You want me to send Kcmylorn up there? Sounds like a nurse that can get reform going in your facility

    Kcmylorn can use the "Chuck Norris" style discussion to bring them to reason, best idea so far!
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  12. Visit  SweettartRN profile page
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    Quote from BlueDevil,DNP
    Not to derail, but I simply cannot fathom not having a home telephone. I guess if you really cannot afford it, try this: get the $10 track phone and use that for the home phone. Only provide that number to your work place, and then don't answer it, lol. Let them leave a message and return the call at your convenience. I truly do not believe text messages are acceptable for professional communications. Disclaimer: I don't send text messages to anyone anyway, and I suppose that is another thread.

    I do think when we habitually choose this sort of informal and unprofessional communication behavior as the norm, we invite more unprofessional conduct on their part. I suggest you raise the bar, and then hold them to higher standards as well. None of this text messaging nonsense. Real, professional, adult communique required. If they want something from you, they have to ask you, personally, and politely. If they should be unable to reach you to speak with you directly and make their request in a manner that facilitates clear dialogue, offering an opportunity for questions and answers as well as compromise, then they should make other arrangements.

    If you opt to accept the status quo because it is easier than addressing the problem and taking steps to remedy the issues at hand, I will refrain from commenting "told ya so" on your next thread on the same or similar subject.
    I can't fathom having a home telephone. Ever. What a waste of money. If someone needs me, I have a cell phone. There is no reason this day and age for anyone to have a home telephone. But that's just my $0.02.

    My question is, to the OP why the hell do you keep your cell phone turned on all night long? My phone is shut off between 9PM and 6 AM, and if someone has died or there is an emergency, it can wait until the morning.
  13. Visit  brillohead profile page
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    Quote from SweettartRN
    I can't fathom having a home telephone. Ever. What a waste of money. If someone needs me, I have a cell phone. There is no reason this day and age for anyone to have a home telephone. But that's just my $0.02.
    I have a child who stays at home by himself, and I do NOT think children need a cell phone, so we have a land-line. Much cheaper to have a home phone, and it also provides a phone number where his friends and classmates can call him without tying up my cell phone. It also ensures that we always have a phone around for emergencies -- hard to call 911 for a drowning incident if the only phone was a cell phone that went into the pool during the drowning incident, for example.

    If I were a single person, or if I had no kids, I wouldn't bother with having a home phone. But when kids are involved, things are different.

    Quote from SweettartRN
    My question is, to the OP why the hell do you keep your cell phone turned on all night long? My phone is shut off between 9PM and 6 AM, and if someone has died or there is an emergency, it can wait until the morning.
    And again -- some people have different priorities. For most people, deaths and emergencies are "need to know NOW" situations. I care about my family and friends, and I want to be available to them, so I don't turn my phone off. I don't want to wait five hours to find out that someone needed my support in the middle of the night.

    A solution to the work problem, however, could be to send all calls from work directly to voicemail (provided that there is one specific work number -- hard to set that up if every extension at the hospital has a different caller-ID number). Or just don't answer if you see that it's work calling in.
    prinsessa and RNsRWe like this.

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