Are you afraid to approach minority staff members? WHY? - page 7

It's been said that racism and discrimination runs both ways. White nurses complain that minorities gather together and exclude them from conversations. Minorities say that they are passed over for... Read More

  1. by   deespoohbear
    I don't care what race, nationality, sex, etc someone is. Doesn't matter to me. What I want is someone who is respectful, does their job, is kind to others. I work in a rural hospital which is mainly Caucasian. But our area does have a rather large Hispanic population and a lot of Amish. I have found out that people can be nice or rude no matter what race, sex, nationality they are. Unfortunately stupidity and ignorance knows no boundaries.
  2. by   l.rae
    Originally posted by rebelwaclause
    Let me play P*N...I mean the devil for a minute....

    I read a lot of posts that imply immunity from prejudices because a Cousin's-Uncle's-Sister's-Dads-Next door neighbor was Black/White/Hispanic/Filipino...whatever. I'm not saying it doesn't matter - Sure, being around another culture does educate you and allow opportunities to become familiar and comfortable. But it doesn't mean you respect or admire the culture. It doesn't mean you automatically stop stereotyping cultures in ways that can be deemed as racist.

    Sorry if I sound a little ornery. Just came from another thread dealing with a similar topic. Just wanted to give you something to think about.
    Rebel, l am really glad you brought this up..and you make a valid point.......Sometimes l think the flip side of this is the person may be saying, "l don't care for you as a person....has nothing to do with your color....because my ..blahblahblah".....and that is valid too...sometimes ppl are accused of being racist when they just don't like the person....My dgter was accused of racism at work and it just devastated her...she and her friend who works with her and lives next door to her were relating the incident and it was rediculous, however, her friend asked her, "why didn't you tell them you husband isn't white?"...she just kind of shrugged her shoulders and shook her head......

    Sleepy, l can kind of relate to your story about your spanish grandma....my little grandson is lilly white and blond hair like my dgtr....but has fetures dead on to his dad....l always tell sil..."he looks like a white you/"................LR
  3. by   mark_LD_RN
    where I work now i do not see this as a problem at all while the precentage of black nurses here is small. we do have black supervisors and management one of the best supervisors here is black and we get along very well.
    but I have worked at other hospitals where it was not the case i was very uncomfortable talking to or confronting black staff members. because management would totally ignore anything to do with it being afraid of racial accusations I guess.
    i do not find that to be the case here we are all treated as equals and we get recognized equally and disciplined equally.
    I think the whole key to me is that we all should get equal treatment no matter what gender or race we are.
  4. by   rebelwaclause
    P_RN,

    I have updated the post. Soooo sorry it looked more like your name than the name intended. I meant no offense to you.
  5. by   TheLionessRN
    after reading all these posts, I do remember a certain unit clerk that I worked with until she quit due to illness...she had been written up a number of times for inaccuracies and serious mistakes in transcription, and for laziness and bad attitude. About 15 years ago, she hired a lawyer and threatened a lawsuit when she was almost fired for some error she made. She accused the hospital of racism, and they didn't fire her out of fear.
    That kind of behavior makes me livid, and I don't understand it at all...from either standpoint.
    In confronting staff of other color, I never had a problem with that. I did have a problem with directing/asking a CNA who is old enough to be my mother.
    Personally, I hate the term African American, because I was raised to be color blind, and the term seems to create a gulf that isn't supposed to be there. We are ALL Americans, of ALL different colors and backgrounds. Once you are a generation removed from a foriegn origin, then you are a native. Regardless of color.
  6. by   jude11142
    I work in a LTCF and we have had several problems related to race. One of the saddest situations that I have come across involves a friend of mine who I went to nursing school with. She is African American and I am an Italian American, well heck, I am white and she is black, and the problems that she has had to deal with come from our cna's who are mainly black and/or hispanic. She gets called a "snob", a wanna-be-whitey and other names. I cannot believe it!!!!! Before anyone thinks that she acts better than others or anything like that, she doesn't. She is and acts as a very professional nurse. Other than being a little bit on the quiet side, she is in no way prejudice. I feel so bad for her and not only that but I get offended when others say things like, "wanna be white" or "she acts white" etc.........If I was to say that somebody acts "black" well I bet that hell would break loose. I am sick of hearing acts black, acts white, as if we have to be split into two different kinds of people. Many times we hear of racists being white but in my experience, the racists that I have come across are black. As for minorities many of our ancestors were once minorities. My parents came from Italy and I have been told stories about how the neighborhoods were split into the Italians, the Irish etc.......as a matter of fact, my mom wasn't allowed in her irish friends house. We need to let go of the hatred in this world and learn to live as one. We need to learn from the past and move forward. I suppose that we could go on and on with this subject so sticking the subject of how it affects the workplace, this is what has been going on at ours.

    JUDE
  7. by   duckie
    I have no difficulty approaching anyone, especailly if it's related to my job situation. I don't usually go up to total strangers but do make a point to be friendly to anyone I make eye contact with. If the day comes I cannot smile and say hi, then that's the day they lay me down! Jesus loves us all, red, yellow, black and whilte, we are precious in His sight!
  8. by   Teshiee
    The only thing that chaps my hide is when someone assumes I am a CNA because of my color. I don't have to say a word just walk in the presence of some ignorant people and they assume otherwise. If you do not know my title ask before assumption. I give everyone that same respect I expect it from others too.
  9. by   Alley Cat
    Wonderful thread! It's interesting to see the responses from around the country. I do think region has a lot of influence on how people are treated/respond to this subject. I could go on and on and on about the different situations I've seen. Live in KS, can really appreciate researchrabbit's response; don't think we've ever met, but you sound like a good shot in the arm for the University! (If you're no longer there, it's a tremendous loss for them ). I also tend to greet everyone I see, and I have noticed a BIG difference in responses. The responses are culturally based, usually, and the stoic Germanic/Lutheran WASP types look straight through me as if I'm not there--and I'm white (okay, brunette w/olive complexion). People are just afraid to communicate, I guess; maybe they're afraid friendliness is catching!:roll Personally I try very hard to get along well with my coworkers; I had one bad experience as a GN, but I blamed management more than the CNA involved, plus my lack of maturity at the time. THe long shot was, it made me VERY aware of how I treat nurse techs, unit clerks (HUC's), housekeeping, etc; we're all in this together, these people are often lifesavers themselves and have saved my backside more than once with their willingness to help. Also had a really bad experience with a very angry young woman a couple years ago; even our nurses of color had issues with her. I only took care of her child one am, she told me to leave the room in inappropriate language and continued to harass me even though I never took care of the child again. Took baby home, refused all assistance, took off home apnea monitor, child came back to hospital DOA 10 days after she took her home. Why was she allowed to take infant home even after repeated documentation of her refusal to cooperate? We'll never know for sure, but her threatening behavior may have had a lot to do with it (nobody wanted to incite or agitate her further). The system failed her, us and the child. Sorry this is so long.
  10. by   jude11142
    Originally posted by Teshiee
    The only thing that chaps my hide is when someone assumes I am a CNA because of my color. I don't have to say a word just walk in the presence of some ignorant people and they assume otherwise. If you do not know my title ask before assumption. I give everyone that same respect I expect it from others too.
    That would really upset me too...........unfortunately I have seen people(many times the families of patients)assume that if you are anything but white than you are an aide. Give me a break!! I also work with a nurse that is Chinese and we had a patient tell her to "get back to her own country"...........I was appalled but I have to say that she handled it wonderfully. Actually she was born here in the US, so she is in HER country and this patient is the one who was an immigrant.......she didn't stoop herself to that level of saying that but she did let it be known that she was born and raised here in the US. We as Americans seem to base so much on not only what color we are, but what we look like, how we talk etc............I'm sure that we've all seen this happen. Very sad that in this day and age this occurs.

    Anyways, teshiee, I wanted to agree with ya on this one. I would be upset too.

    JUDE
  11. by   LasVegasRN
    This is the most pleasant thread on race I have ever read.
  12. by   happthearts
    I have never had a problem working with any one of any race as long as they spoke English and could both at least if we understand each other, have been great friends and coworkers. This may be because Mom brought me up well and I was born in LA. and around all types of people.

    I will never forget the day when a black family did state they felt because I was white. I could not give proper care to there dad Made me cry. He and I were very close and talked all the time. He was dying on the cancer ward and was a very interesting Old man he had been dean at a collage.

    This girl I worked with was My friend and She was Black. named Kisha. The family went to her and stated they wanted her instead the stated they felt I couldn't care for there Dad as well being white. Kisha turned around and stated to them that there Dad and I were very close and I was his nurse and couldn't get better care from anyone and they needed to deal with there prejudging. I finally was able to win the family around after Kisha stated what She did. They saw my concern and great respect for there Dad and allowed me to my job. I will always be in Kisha debet for what she did for me. I was able to take care of him until he died.
    Last edit by happthearts on Oct 26, '02
  13. by   Teshiee
    Thanks, Jude!!! Honestly anyone who has been in a diverse culture is really blessed because it adds so much spice to the health profession. I really love to see a mixture of people. You learn so much from one another. I say one love one love irie irie

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