Petition to help new grads get experience - page 3

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In light of the struggles that new grads are having securing a job, this petition may be of interest to many of you. allnurses.com has nothing to do with this petition. We are not endorsing it at all. We are just sharing... Read More


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    Was ist nuts??
    My late father innitiated a government program that helped disabled veterans learn skills to help them re-enter the job market. They were taught computer skills as well as Spanish as a second language for starters. He fought for veteran's rights and was successful doing so. He also helped out former IVDU enter the workforce. I've seen ideas first hand become reality...
    The petition I drafted is far from perfect. It only gave suggestions. I asked that our President help come up with a plan. I'm pretty sure it's our country's best interest that new nurses are hired. New nurses hired=less on public assistance=more paying into social security...and of course, gaining experience now instead of the last minute...I am very glad that this subject is getting the attention it deserves. Let's continue to brainstorm and help each other grow...
    As an interesting sidenote...I just learned that one of Harriet Tubman's jobs in PA was a nurse. I was aware Walt Whitman was a volunteer nurse in what is now a community hospital on Kingshighway Brooklyn, but I never knew that about Harriet Tubman...Which makes me ask...is it really only education that makes a great nurse?
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    Ok I now "see " the petition...wow....
    Well first of all I am glad I live in the USA where we have freedom of speech. I am NOT try to flame anyone here but as an experienced nurse AND consumer of health care.. I have some thoughts..

    We ask President Obama to help new graduate nurses gain the experience needed to get a nursing job.


    Sorry I dont think we need to make a "presidential case" out of these as there are MANY nursing lobbyists and organizations that have more expertise on this than he does. Start with the CNA....they have helped nurses across the country I believe raise the standard of care and protect against the erosion of some policy makers decisions gone awry. Wow I could see where some hospitals might capitalize on your suggestions and for greedy purposes find and incentive to hire only new nurses....


    If you are looking for loyalty that is institution driven mostly. Do some research on Magnet hospitals.



    Recently there has been a great amount of help wanted ads from hospitals and agencies that are looking for nurses. Unfortunately for new grads, these jobs require at least 1 year of experience as a professional nurse. Hospitals are reluctant to hire new nurses due to the high cost of training each nurse and fears that they will not be loyal.


    Some possible solutions may be: 1. give tax breaks to experienced nurses who will take on a new grad as an apprentice



    I don't think you have a real insight as to how precepting works at hospitals. Again back to my advice to WORK in a hospital or institution that you PLAN to work in and you will become enlightened to many things. One of which is how precepting works. I don't think there is a shortage of preceptors. I have never seen that and I have been in health care for DECADES.
    Secondly you are asking for government support to help nurses find jobs...that should not be something the goverment has to do. Jobs are out there.. you need to relocate like other professions do if you choose to get an education for a job where there is no market for you. There are jobs... maybe not the ones you want.


    . 2. give hospitals more funding for externship programs. 3. Setting up standardized hospital training programs (similar to CPR classes) in order to lessen the cost of hiring new grads in hospitals

    An 8 hour CPR class is a drop in the BUCKET to most hospitals to the year long mentorship program with 12 weeks of preceptorship to find out you cant hack it . What about bringing back more practical experience in nursing programs and require some of you new grads to volunteer somewhere so you really know what you are getting into if you can not or do not want to work your way through school. That way its a "free trial" for the hospital AND you to see if you are a match.

    I work for a magnet facillity...people are lined up to work there... but you must have a 4 year degree AND be a top notch student and person to even gain an interview. The only exception...tada..u worked there...got a 2 year degree...were a stellar employee..they like you..AND there is a job opening AND you have to agree to complete your BSN within I think 5 years...

    So....I would suggest people do some homework up front before they go out and become a nurse and expect there is "the " job they want.

    Go work for an LTAC a year be an stellar employee with good references...get back in school to get your BSN and then transfer to the job you "really" want
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    Oh and work for a top notch stepping stone job..not someplace with a a bad rep....your first year of experience should be GOOD experience..a new employer does not really want to "rehab" you from bad habits of work ing for some place that has a less than stellar reputation. This probably equates to ...working nights in a good long term care facillity or LTAC>..long term acute care... you will gain LOTS of experience in an LTAC...just keep your eyes on the prize..dont get in a comfortbable rut and transfer back to that acute care hospital your dream job lies in. Be prepared to start part time off shift etc. Once you get your foot in the door and you are a great employee opportunities for improvement should exist. Net work network network!!
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    Quote from Mulan
    Nuts!

    Talk about entitlement!

    You mean like seniority? What a bunch of entitled whiners. We all should work holidays on rotation. Just because someone is younger than you and has less years in the workforce doesn't mean they don't deserve a fair chance at a holiday. SOOOOO sorry I wasn't born sooner, jeez.

    Maybe you should ask for the new grads' help since healthcare is a mess and you're chronically understaffed. But God forbid you don't feed the old nurse versus new nurses monster.

    Love,

    someone who was once a new grad and couldn't find a job and when she did, worked with "experienced" nurses who were lazy, mean, and totally unhelpful. Remember that we were all once new.
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    I'm not saying overload the system with all new grads, but give them a break, it's not easy.
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    I have seen grads from my class run into a conundrum: they don't qualfy for a residency because they ltac experience but don't qualfy as experienced because they have no acute care experience.
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    No hospital here hires new grad RNs, they all require 1 year acute care experience. Well how exactly do you get that? Magic?
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    Many factors are involved.
    -Poor retention of new grads due to bullying, or culture shock
    -Not enough good quality preceptors
    -Ofcourse money
    -More new grads than jobs out there.

    I'm just so bless that I haven't been in a situation where I've been an unemployed nurse. I don't know what it is but I never had an issue with finding a job.
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    Quote from JZ_RN
    You mean like seniority? What a bunch of entitled whiners. We all should work holidays on rotation. Just because someone is younger than you and has less years in the workforce doesn't mean they don't deserve a fair chance at a holiday. SOOOOO sorry I wasn't born sooner, jeez.

    Maybe you should ask for the new grads' help since healthcare is a mess and you're chronically understaffed. But God forbid you don't feed the old nurse versus new nurses monster.

    Love,

    someone who was once a new grad and couldn't find a job and when she did, worked with "experienced" nurses who were lazy, mean, and totally unhelpful. Remember that we were all once new.
    Wow, you must have had to work a holiday!
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    I am a new graduate nurse, but am against this petition. Asking the President of the United States and the Leader of the Free World to "help new graduate nurses gain the experience needed to get a nursing job" is absurd! Especially when this petition is poorly written and does not have practical solutions to the status quo of nursing jobs.


    "1. give tax breaks to experienced nurses who will take on a new grad as an apprentice."- I have talked to several RNs who would LOVE to have my classmates or myself working on their unit; however, it is not up to them. There has to be the funding in the hospital to open and create a position for a nurse. Therefore, giving tax breaks to RNs for having apprentices, is not realistic.

    "2. give hospitals more funding for externship programs." -Where do you want this funding to come from? Do you think when we are in such a huge deficit that even if the PRESIDENT wanted to, he would be able to throw more money at every hospital to hire every new graduate nurse? That is absurd. How many hospitals are there, and how many new graduates? Do you know what this would mean for the federal budget?

    AND FINALLY: MY LEAST FAVORITE PART OF THE PETITION:
    "3. Setting up standardized hospital training programs (similar to CPR classes) in order to lessen the cost of hiring new grads in hospitals."-
    There are ALREADY TRAINING PROGRAMS - it's called nursing school!! CPR classes teach theory and simulations regarding CPR. This is what nursing school is. The reason hospitals are weary of hiring new graduate nurses is because we have book knowledge- but no REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE. Having more classes, isn't going to help new graduates become more marketable to the hospitals.



    Last edit by JustBeachyNurse on Jan 11, '13 : Reason: correct formatting
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