Visa Bulletin - page 4

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  1. by   bettyboop
    We were upto DS-230 when retrogresion hit. We are one of the lucky one's my PD date is May 2005. We understand we have to continue along the same time schedule as before, but at least we are moving ahead. It was welcome news that the dates advanced from 2003 to 2005 (for UK nurses). From when we were retrogressed the date up unitl June's bulletin had not moved, we were all clinging to the hope the senate would pass some bill for immigration reform or recapture of visa's, up intil this visa bulletin the senate was our only glimmer of hope. This bulletin was both unexpected and extremly welcome our hope is renewed.
    Roll on July's bulletin.
  2. by   topscot
    Quote from suzanne4
    What many of you are failing to understand, just because your PD date was before the new cut-off date, you still need to go thru the same process that you would have to go thru at any time before you will get an interview date. That means the visa bill being paid, the DS-230 being submitted and approved, and then the file being completed before it is sent to the US Embassy for your interview to even be scheduled. So for many, this is not going to change things. It can still take months and months to get to that point.
    but too many of us it is still positive news
  3. by   suzanne4
    But again, US immigration right now is not operating under the same staff that they were using a few months ago, so things are still going to be slow. And until they know for sure how many visas will actually be used, do not expect them to make increases in the PD immediately. These new dates to not even go into effect for two more weeks.

    Sorry, to be like this, but these are the facts of what is happening in the US right now.
  4. by   letina
    How will it work for the nurses whose files are complete already?
  5. by   english_nurse
    yes how
  6. by   4floridabound
    Dear Suzanne,
    You seem to be knowledgable about all these things.I would just like to ask what "Documentarily Qualified" means in US immigration terms?

    Thank you.
  7. by   ED-Adrenaline
    Quote from 4floridabound
    Dear Suzanne,
    You seem to be knowledgable about all these things.I would just like to ask what "Documentarily Qualified" means in US immigration terms?

    Thank you.
    Haven't you done your homework today?
    It takes a little browsing/few minutes. I have learned that from Ms.Suzanne.

    Documentarily Qualified

    Refers to an immigrant visa applicant who has: 1) returned Form DS 2001 (from the Instruction Package) to visa-issuing post (or in some cases, to the National Visa Center), OR 2) informed post in another way that he/she has all the documents for his/her immigrant visa application, and the post has completed its clearance procedures.
    Source: U.S. Department of State.
    Last edit by ED-Adrenaline on May 16, '07
  8. by   4floridabound
    Quote from Macedonia the Great
    Haven't you done your homework today?
    It takes a little browsing/few minutes. I have learned that from Ms.Suzanne.

    Documentarily Qualified

    Refers to an immigrant visa applicant who has: 1) returned Form DS 2001 (from the Instruction Package) to visa-issuing post (or in some cases, to the National Visa Center), OR 2) informed post in another way that he/she has all the documents for his/her immigrant visa application, and the post has completed its clearance procedures.
    Source: U.S. Department of State.
    Dear Macedonia the Great,
    Thanks for your reply.
    Does it mean that anyone who is already "Documentarily Qualified" and with a current Priority Date is just waiting for the notification for consular interview?
    Last edit by 4floridabound on May 16, '07 : Reason: additional info
  9. by   MARI 1
    Yes it is good news, however as Suzanne has mentioned it is important to keep in mind it is only a small hole in the wall....this is so that no one gets false hope that it is still going to happen overnight. For those of you waiting for so long there is and has been issues with processing your cases... immigration sets the rules, if the submissions are not completed correctly they are sent back... things must be according to how they want them. I have seen where a paralegal has submitted the doc's and made mistakes (not intentional but it did cause someone to wait much longer), some agencies hold off sending documents in so they can market the RN's and this gives them time. It is not often that immigration loses things but they did loose my file.. I would say I am not the norm. Things change like the need for a long form birth certificates that can take months to get.
    I think that we all need to look at being optimistic but not going out and purchasing a plane ticket and packing your bags. Balance in all things will save you all stress and worry.
    This is a small move forward and any movement is very welcomed.. just temper it with a little caution.
    I know Suzanne really cares about all of us and tries to provide us all with the best information to make your transition smoother... so patience all, it will come to pass and it will all be worth, especially if you do it right..
    Never Ever Give Up!!! It is like studying for the exam it is painful, but oh how sweet it is when you have worked hard and then you pass...
    Good Luck to Everyone
  10. by   suzanne4
    Since I have been getting multiple pms and e-mails asking me questions, I am going to answer it one summation here.

    To start at the beginning, and this does not matter which country that you were born for what I am going to explain. Since it seems like many attorneys and agencies never did this, and it is their responsibility to do so, and they are paid for such. And I do all of this as a volunteer.

    It does not take a year to get approval on the I-140. Plain and simple. When all of the appropriate and required documentation is submitted by yhe attorney, approval is just months, sometimes can be six or so. But that is not the norm..Unfortunately, most of you have signed a document giving the agency and attorney to act on youtr behalf. And this is not always a good thing, because you may not be notified that addtional information was requested because something was left out to start with. And it gets blamed on immigration when it had not one thing to do with them. The entire process should take a year or less, when everything is done in a timely manner. Not these three year cases that we have been hearing about. That is strictly the fault of the agency and/or attorney, not immigration. Sure, immigration does make mistakes, they workers are human, but not to the extent that they are getting blamed for something. Far from that.. If they are given the information that is required, then they act on, they do not like to leave open files just sitting there.

    Even when the last retrogression affected only nurses from the PIC countries, the rest were being processed for the green card in just about 8 months maximum from start to finish. So when there is someone from the UK that has been waiting for two years or longer, that is strictly not immigration, or they would have been in the US last year.

    Now as to what it is going on with the June Bulletin. Sure, they have moved the PD dates, however, as they said it is a trial to see what they can get done and completed; and subject to change. The protocol with those dates does not go into effect until the 1st of June. They just send out advance notice of what they will be doing, but it does not start until June. Then they need to go thru and see how many are actually still waiting for the green card from the newer PD dates. And those dates are for all of the EB-3 category, not just nurses and physical therapists. So yes, there have been some that have had earlier PD dates than many of you for whatever reason. They still have not stated how many visas are being recaptured as of yet. And they will not start reviewing files until the 1st of June, or later. Not before. That is why I seriouly doubt that you will see a forward move for the July Bulletin, there is no way that they are going to be able to get thru all that they have waiting. And they are not going to go forward until the clear up some of the earlier ones. And yes, depending on the country where you were born will play a part in most cases, as visas are normally made available as so many per country, not classification of profession in this case. The majority of professions are under the EB-3 category.

    Example: When they made the 50,000 visas under the Schedule A available the last time; less than 20,000 went to nurses, the rest were to their dependents. Schedule A is still not in the Bulletin. This is why I do not want you to get your hopes up that much until you get actual word from the US Embassy in your country that you have an interview scheduled.
    In many cases, visa bills still need to be paid, and then the other paperwork still needs to be submitted and approved. And many here are basing things on the fact that they only have approval of the I-140 and nothing further than that. The fact that the PD has moved up, still does not mean that agencies are going to be in a hurry to pay the bill, since we still do not know for sure when the RN will be back under Schedule A or something else similar.

    For those of you that have a PD before the cut-off date and have a completed file, and were notified that your file was at the US Embassy or in the process of getting sent, you will have the best chance of getting something. But again that is only with the PD of 2005. Currently, even those that have a completed file and were just waiting for a visa, but their PD date was March, 2006; they will not be included initially with this grouping.

    We have seen in the past where agencies and attorneys have promised someone that they were going to get a visa by a certain time, but they have absolutely no control over that, visas are handled by US Immigration only, and are subject to their rules. I do not want to see any of you get hurt by this and then get delayed again. Better to be hopeful by the anticipation of getting one now, but again, we do not know how many will actually go to nurses.

    So please be careful. Yes, it is great news that we are seeing movement, but they are talking of all EB-3s and that is something that you need to be aware of. There has been no mention of anything specific for nurses, and that is what it going to cause issue right now.
  11. by   suzanne4
    And I checked in with news sources frequently today when I could, and there was not one mention of anything other than dealing with illegal immigration and they still could not get anything done with that. Until that is a done deal, there is not going to be anything with the nurses. This issue still takes priority here right now.
  12. by   mpoova
    ...............
    So please be careful. Yes, it is great news that we are seeing movement, but they are talking of all EB-3s and that is something that you need to be aware of. There has been no mention of anything specific for nurses, and that is what it going to cause issue right now.[/quote]


    Ya..I think this is right.. Most of normal schedule A applicant with PD by Jan 2005 are in US with their green cards..and competing with current EB3s , nurses have slim chances for a visa..
  13. by   ED-Adrenaline
    I just have a HUGE thank you for excelent explanation that Suzanne gave to all. It cannot be clearer than this.
    Thank you Suzanne:kiss
    For all of you there...waiting...:bowingpur
    Do you know where from the word PATIENT comes from?...
    From all our patients that are waiting in ER to get checked by US.
    Soooo, be PATIENT...and everything will come to a resolution.

    "Life is not a destination,it is an adventure"

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