Quickest Way for Getting Things Done and Licensed in US

[suzanne4]

As most of you know, I have been recommending initial licensure in NY for quite some time. And for those of you that did not heed the warning, you now know why.

New York is three easy applications only, next you take the NCLEX exam, then you get a hard license and can endorse to almost any state afterwards. Because of the requirements of the Special Credentials Verification for New York, you do not have to do any of the running around to obtain your documents. CGFNS will obtain them for you....after you sign the release and send them the money.

NY also requires two short classes that can be done on-line, one on Child Abuse, and the other on Infection. Both are available for about $15 each and take only one hour or so.

NY BON application can be found at http://www.op.nyed.gov. You only need to submit "Form 1."

The Special Credentials Verification can be found at http://www.CGFNS.org, as well as the Visa Screen Application.

Once you have received documentation from NY that your credentials have been received and approved, submit payment to Pearson-Vue for the NCLEX exam. http://www.perasonvue.com. They are the ones that will actually send you the ATT letter, upon approval of the Board of Nursing. Be aware that this ATT (authorization to test) is only good for ninety (90) days. You will have onlt that amount of time to get the exam done in, otherwise you will lose your payment and have to start again.

Hope that this helps................ :balloons:

Most importantly, NY will issue you the license without a Social Security Number.

[suzanne4, RN]

The fingerprint cards for CA need to be sent directly to CA, they do not go to your NBI.

Visa Screen Certificate just needs to be presented when you have your Embassy interview, or right before.

But shame on your agency. That is all that I can say on the matter.

[lawrence01]

Good day everyone. Its my first post here. I should have known this helpful website a long time ago.

I'm a Filipino nurse who was recently notified by my agency that I already have a notice of approval dated November 18, 2005. They are asking me to submit my CA BON and fingerprint form card. The problem is I'm working here in Dubai for almost 2 months now. I can send them my filled-up CA BON application but the fingerprinting has to be done at NBI Manila office, which is impossible unless I resign from the hospital that hired me and immediately head back home. Can I just be fingerprinted at the US or Philippine embassy here in Dubai and I will send the form to the Philippines to be submitted to the NBI by an authorised representative? Or are there any other ways to which I can accomplish the fingerprinting requirements? Thanks in advance.

The manual fingerprint card (1 DOJ) are done in NBI for "finger-rolling" purposes only and sent to CA BON w/c in turn they will send to DOJ in Sacramento. The NBI in the Phil. doesn't do anthing with it, except for finger-rolling. The DOJ (in Sacramento)will do the backgroundchecks and the whole processing.

Since you are in Dubai, I'm sure there's an equivalent of our NBI that can do that for you there. In the Phil. when they see that its for the U.S. DOJ or FBI they (local police) just won't do it.. they'll say right away that it has to be done by an "expert"/"master" fingerprinter located in the main NBI (in Carreido) so that every print on every finger are legible because the DOJ/FBI will just return it if was not satisfactorily done and you will have to re-do it and pay the fee again.

I don't know about in Dubai (maybe different there). Just ask around first.

[pinoy_guy]

but they are still not processing my visascreen application. so the logic is as long as i'm not licensed as rn in the us, my immigration process can wait. this could be because a visa's validity is good for only six months and they don't want to gamble with their "investment" that i'll end up as lvn in the us..

my friend is getting the same argument from his agency.

in fairness though, another friend who just came back from california told me that there are more than a few filipino nurses there who got green cards on the basis of passing the cgfns exam...and could not pass the nclex. so they're now working as lpns, and getting lpn rates.

hospitals and rns not happy with situation.

nurses not happy coz they're getting lower pay than the rns. hospitals not happy coz they spent thousands of dollars and 2 to 3 years time to bring the nurses and their families to the us, but can not give them rn jobs coz they cannot pass the nclex. my friend said they can get a lot of black and mexican/latino (latin american?) lpns, us hospitals do not need lpns, they need rns. my friend did not pry further into the details, as it's a sensitive topic for her friends there.

they're saying this is why us hospitals are now looking for nclex passers, coz that's a sure ball, instead of a cgfns passer only. (she said most hospitals will reimburse you the fees for the nclex exam and the review--just show them the receipts.)

suzanne, can you confirm this?

i'm planning to take the ielts at the british embassy here in dubai by march of next year and without vs i don't know where will my ielts be forwarded.

i took the ielts without the visa screen (the courier i used lost my application & bank draft!)...when i called cgfns though, the person mentioned that even without an application & payment, if they receive a document about a person, they open a file on him/her and wait for the application and full payment. or you can request the british embassy to forward your ielts results at a later date.

good luck on your exam!

btw, i'm wondering how your agency can be "processing" your eb3 if you're just applying for the nclex and haven't applied for the visa screen...

suzanne, is this possible?

[ninacf]

The manual fingerprint card (1 DOJ) are done in NBI for "finger-rolling" purposes only and sent to CA BON w/c in turn they will send to DOJ in Sacramento. The NBI in the Phil. doesn't do anthing with it, except for finger-rolling. The DOJ (in Sacramento)will do the backgroundchecks and the whole processing.

Since you are in Dubai, I'm sure there's an equivalent of our NBI that can do that for you there.

Thanks Lawrence. I'm still feeling like a stray cat here in beautiful Dubai. I'll just ask my superiors who are under the Department of Health since they are in the government they should probably know the NBI or FBI's counterpart in UAE.

[ninacf]

i took the ielts without the visa screen (the courier i used lost my application & bank draft!)...when i called cgfns though, the person mentioned that even without an application & payment, if they receive a document about a person, they open a file on him/her and wait for the application and full payment. or you can request the british embassy to forward your ielts results at a later date.

good luck on your exam!

i really appreciate your informative reply pinoy guy. thank you.

btw, i'm wondering how your agency can be "processing" your eb3 if you're just applying for the nclex and haven't applied for the visa screen...

that's why i've mentioned that the nclex (us license) is more important to them than the visa processing itself. i've read from many posts (many of which are from suzanne) that it takes a great time to apply for and complete the visascreen certificate. they want me to accomplish the requirements for the nclex (school credentials, fingerptinting) yet they haven't paid for my visascreen fee to start the process. there's no wonder my eb3 sched a petition will be taking longer than what should be anticipated.

[suzanne4, RN]

The manual fingerprint card (1 DOJ) are done in NBI for "finger-rolling" purposes only and sent to CA BON w/c in turn they will send to DOJ in Sacramento. The NBI in the Phil. doesn't do anthing with it, except for finger-rolling. The DOJ (in Sacramento)will do the backgroundchecks and the whole processing.

Since you are in Dubai, I'm sure there's an equivalent of our NBI that can do that for you there. In the Phil. when they see that its for the U.S. DOJ or FBI they (local police) just won't do it.. they'll say right away that it has to be done by an "expert"/"master" fingerprinter located in the main NBI (in Carreido) so that every print on every finger are legible because the DOJ/FBI will just return it if was not satisfactorily done and you will have to re-do it and pay the fee again.

I don't know about in Dubai (maybe different there). Just ask around first.

That must be just an issue in the Philippines, as in every other country, you can just go to the local police department.

[suzanne4, RN]

And there should actually be two sets of fingerprints sent to CA, not just one, or it will take longer to get your approval from the BON.

[suzanne4, RN]

Thanks Lawrence. I'm still feeling like a stray cat here in beautiful Dubai. I'll just ask my superiors who are under the Department of Health since they are in the government they should probably know the NBI or FBI's counterpart in UAE.

A local police dept is just fine there.

[suzanne4, RN]

AS I keep saying, the more reputable facilities are interested in seeing a passing score on the NCLEX exam, the CGFNS doesn't make any difference to them. It is strictly a screening exam only and doesn't permit you to work. I know that the companies here, that I like, will only work with a nurse who has a passing NCLEX exam, they won't do a thing with just the CGFNS. Hospitals are interested in a known thing, that the nurse will be able to work.

An agency can submit your documents for processing based on the passing of either CGFNS or NCLEX. If you are out of the country, and will be going for consular processing, you just need to show the Visa Screen Certificate when you go for your interview, at least that is how things are right now.

My personal feeling is that CGFNS exam is a waste of time and money unless you are going to MI where it is still required, otherwise just go for the NCLEX exam.

[lawrence01]

CA just updated their website very recently and I have seen that now they clearly state that they only require the 1 fingerprint card for examination purposes and 2 cards for endorsements.

Before, it was confusing because some will get two cards while some only get one plus now you can order these things directly from their website and not through email anymore. Good for CA.

[suzanne4, RN]

That may be all that they require, but if there are any issues with that one set, you will be waiting months. It is worth it to get that extra set done, or it can take you a year or so to get your ATT. Especially if there is an issue with one print. And CA doesn't notify you, so after waiting your four or five months jsut to be told that there was an issue with a set of fingerprints doesn't make any sense to me.

Your choice. My recommendation.

[nurseako]

I have a problem with my CG certificate. I am from the philippines, i mailed this problem of mine to my agency who is based in the US. The problem is, i passed the cg last july and passed the IELTS last october. So, it has been more than 2 months since the result was released. When i mailed this poblem to my agency, they replied to me and told me that i need to inform the CG office that I am allowing a third party on behalf of myself to receive my cg certificate. Actually, when they came to my country they let me sign an Authorization form, that i am allowing them to access my file. my question is, am i going to do what they want me to do? However, if im goingt to let them receive my cg certificate will i still receive another copy of it? I still need it in filling for my NCLEX RN exam.

thanks for your help