You really think nurses make alot of money? Let me give you something to think about

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So, I am tired of the student nurses that come through our unit saying "Well, nurses make alot of money." I like to gently explain to them that we don't in the following way:

I make $27 an hour. I have 4 or 5 patients with varying acuities (I work in an ER). So, if I have 4 patients, I am making $6.75/hr per patient (with 5 it's $5.40 an hour). I am responsible for assessing, verifying orders, medicating, etc etc. The last time I was in the hospital I asked for an invoice, and if I remember correctly, they charged me around $200/hr for nursing care. (Now this was on a floor, but I am just using it for general comparison).

I have to also take into consideration that hospitals have overhead (housekeeping, techs, etc.), but still that mark-up is huge. In my previous career, I was making considerably more money for less responsibility and less stress and the mark-up on the products was around 13%. I know I am comparing apples to oranges, but it's just something else to think about.

Most students gasp at this when looking at our wages like this, but it's just something I think we should consider. I sometimes think our wages would be better if they were based on acuity and ratios (for hospital nursing). What do you guys think? Am I looking at this all wrong?

OMG the workload VS reward$ in South Texas is discouraging.

Specializes in Wound Care, LTC, Sub-Acute, Vents.

i think i make pretty good money as a nurse although the work is hard. my first year as an lpn in 2008, i made $60k. i became an rn last year and this year i should be making more than $80k. this is with some ot of course and a prn gig. not too much ot but just enough.

can you tell me other associate degrees where you can make more than $80k a year your first year? my first associate degree was computer science and did not find a related job so i had an office job (part-time) for $10/hr.

i am not discounting all the hard work that comes with being a nurse especially when one mistake can cause a life but i do think nurses get paid pretty good compared to other degrees. but we do deserve more for the work we do.

Specializes in Wound Care, LTC, Sub-Acute, Vents.
not to mention all the people that did go back to school, who would kill for $27hr.... which in actuality is probably closer to $35/hr if the op gets anything like health ins, vacay, cme's, etc.

this is true and did not even think to add my benefits in my pay. i have excellent benefits: health(medical, dental, vision), tuition reimbursement, free ceu, free license renewal, free cpr and iv certifications, vacations, sick days, and personal days. so maybe with benefits, i'll make 100k this year?

I mean no offense in any way, but we were not taught (at least not in my school) to think of our patients as "tasks".

I think AJPV was using the notion of a task performed for a patient as an abstract unit of work in order to explain the math concerning nurses’ hourly incomes.

I am concerned sometimes about the level of mathematics on this site. Perhaps some nurse educators themselves were not trained well enough to pass along math concepts such as the importance of significant figures (including trailing zeros behind a decimal point), or the use of the conversion factor tool, dimensional analysis. For example, the ratio-proportion method for converting units of measurement is the special case of dimensional analysis with only one conversion factor, whereas a general dimensional analysis equation can include any number of needed conversion factors to solve a problem…as long as you cancel the units of measurement correctly in the numerators and denominators of the conversion factors. Ask ex-engineers on this site, and they’ll probably agree about its unfailing value. :)

Or is the problem the funders of nursing education who purposely skimp on mathematics training...to the point that some nurses might not grasp math such as AJPV provided? If that’s the case, then nurses might have difficulty gaining as much influence in health care economics and politics as they need, and so they will find it hard to move forward as a group.

You are a nurse working for $14/hr? Relocate!! I have never heard of nursing wages that low.

I make about $45 an hour - decent money. No complaints about the money in nursing here.

Noo, still just pre-nursing here. My point was that even at this stage of the game (40 yrs. old) I still have yet to make anywhere even close to what is considered a "bad" nursing wage...and that's even with having gone back to school in my late 20's.

$45/hr??? Honey, my hubby and I would feel like we just hit the freakin' lottery, seriously.

Either there are alot of people out there that have their heads in the clouds when it comes to what type of lifestyle they feel they are entitled to, or alot of folks who have no idea how to live within their means :uhoh3:

Specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych.
You are a nurse working for $14/hr? Relocate!! I have never heard of nursing wages that low.

The person who earns $14 hourly is a pre-nursing student. (S)he is not a nurse yet.
You are a nurse working for $14/hr? Relocate!! I have never heard of nursing wages that low.

I make about $45 an hour - decent money. No complaints about the money in nursing here.

Wow!! lucky you....and may I ask what state do you reside in?

I guess making waaaay less than that($23/hr) as an RN with two years experience is telling one that one needs to find another hospital to work at.

Specializes in geriatrics.

I work LTC and I have 30 residents. By the end of the year, I will make about 87, 000. That's without a ton of OT, and my first year of nursing. I'm very happy with that. So I think it depends.

Specializes in Med/Surg, LTC/Geriatric.

I will make about $52,000-$54,000 gross as LPN with 3 years experience. This is FT, some OT, but not much.

This doesn't include my paid benefits/employer contribution to pension/LTD coverage.. If that's included, that would add another $10,000 for the year or so.

I am happy with what I make for a 12 month course.

Specializes in Med-Surg, NICU.
But, uh, ThePrincessBride, you are 20 years old?

My age is irrelevant and unlike some people, I know the value of the dollar. So if you are trying to attack me back off.

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