You are part of the problem with healthcare today if...

texashyles · Mar 25, 2010

Not to be insulting, I'm sure the floor nurses are not surfing the internet at 1:00pm on a Monday.
It is satire, not a personal attack. Chill.

More like tunnel vision. It takes all kinds of expertise and a myriad of specialties to deliver quality care.

grandee3 · Mar 25, 2010

This sort of thing came to a stop in December 2008, although drug reps are still allowed to buy meals for us.

What?????

No more cute little pens and junk. :rolleyes:

Otessa, BSN, RN · Mar 25, 2010

While I tried to find the humor in this, I couldn't. I am an RN with over 20 years of clinical experience who now works in Performance Improvement/Safety. While I may not touch a patient and I wear street clothes, this does not minimize the importance of what I do. I find this attitude pervasive though in nursing, no one takes the time to appreciate that we are all part of a team working together for the good of the patient. It's easy to point fingers, but I say don't judge unless you actually know what jobs your coworkers do. I do my best every day to help provide patients and staff with the safest environment possible. I have put in years at the bedside, and thoroughly resent the assumption that because I now have a different role, that I'm not contributing to patient care. You have no idea.

I worked alongside many nurses and then decided to apply for a PI position-I could make a difference in a different role!

These same nurses-when I would arrive on the floor would say -you are 'one of them' now.

Hmm, last week we worked side by side and now I'm 'unworthy'.

My comeback was-would you rather have ME who had been there done that fight for quality and improvement or someone who has never worked bedside?

Once they realized I didn't think I was better than anyone else because I was on the other side and was there to make positive changes as a TEAM-their attitude changed.

otessa

Case Advocate · Mar 26, 2010

I am with you. I found absolutely no humor in this posting. I have belonged to this site for years and have never replied before. I lost my password, but I was so disappointed in this posting I had to rejoin with a new name just so I could respond.

I have been an RN for 20 years. I did my time on the floor, OR, office, clinic, and even did travel nursing. I am a nurse that lost her job d/t a back injury and had to give up working the floor. I am a case advocate for the elderly now. I may work M-F and wear street clothes, but I work very hard. If it is not for those of us in street clothes helping clients stay in their homes safely - the nursing homes and Assisted Living facilities would have a population explosion.

allnurses Guide · Mar 26, 2010

What?????
No more cute little pens and junk.

Right. . . you can never be too careful, you know. The public needs to be assured their doctor isn't bought off by a pad of Post-It notes or a nail file. :rolleyes:

allthesmallthings · Mar 26, 2010

If you believe that anyone whose role differs from yours is the enemy, YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM WITH HEALTHCARE TODAY!
~bedside nurse with some sense of perspective, thank you very much

Agree. That's a good reply to this post in general. HELlo, healthcare DOES need 9-5 people. I don't terribly want to do patients' insurance crap, or dietary, or employee scheduling, or social services, or any hospital job other than direct health care because I'm a NURSE, not a 9-5er. Different doesn't mean bad. If not for the non-direct health care workers, how much work would we get done? This is not 19th century frontier health care; we serve millions of people, and in that kind of system, you're just going to need more than MD's and nurses.

tlandrn · Mar 26, 2010

I do enjoy satire but what you posted is not satire but detrimental comments. I have been a nurse for over 30 years and have dealt with patient care from a time when patients were not "one foot in the grave" to DRG creation to where we are today. You state that health care is in a midst of change...I am sorry but do you not realize that health care has been in the midst of change since Nightingale's time? We had major changes with Nightingale, again with WWI, and huge changes with the Korean war, the invention of the PA cath (which I participated in the invention studies) and the implementation of DRGs, to name a few.

How do you think that you were able to become a nurse? Your educator was not a direct bedside nurse.Are they part of the problem too? Infection Control use to be an MD position...it is much better monitored and performed by nurses than it ever has been before. Your Nursing Unit Educator was the CVICU, ED, Tele certified expert at the bedside and saw new graduates coming out of school with only half of the experience, education, and clinical time that they had when they were in school. That is why they became the Hospital based Unit educator; to save your from yourself and to save your patient from you, while making things better for the patients by helping you realize the many things that you still do not know. Thank goodness they are still in nursing and can help you realize your mistakes before you make them! They should have gotten to you before you posted your foot in your mouth.

tlandrn · Mar 26, 2010

I took a 20 percent pay cut moving from bedside to leadership and stayed the same pay rate moving into management. We make the same as the academic nurse educators at a college or university. Bedside makes the most money. That is why there are no pay cuts, just no raises. Working as a hospital recruiter was very enlightening!

HealthShepherd · Mar 26, 2010

if there weren't a good bit of truth in it, i don't think the management types would get so bent out of shape about a vent that was meant to be humorous.

well, imagine this: a "business casual" type starts a thread saying that bedside nurses are ignorant and worthless. predictably, many allnursers respond with anger and with evidence to the contrary, despite the op's followup claim that it was "satire".

would you think that there must have been a grain of truth in the claim, since people are upset?

Ruby Vee, BSN · Mar 26, 2010

well, imagine this: a "business casual" type starts a thread saying that bedside nurses are ignorant and worthless. predictably, many allnursers respond with anger and with evidence to the contrary, despite the op's followup claim that it was "satire".
would you think that there must have been a grain of truth in the claim, since people are upset?

the thread implies that some "business casual" types have forgotten what it is to be a bedside nurse or perhaps never knew in the first place. which is true. but much of the rest of the thread heatedly explains that the "business casual" types have risen above mere bedside nursing and deserves the covered parking place and the corner office. or that they're ever so much happier since they left the bedside and the rest of us should do so, too, rather than perhaps love the bedside but participate in the occaisional vent about the business casual folks who give us one more form to fill out "because they're doing a study" and nevermind that we're already charting our hourly glucoses in four different spots in three different programs and that perhaps the study folks could pull their data from that.

in their rush to defend themselves, the business casual folks do send the message that they believe bedside nurses are a bunch of ignorant children to be treated like such.

noc4senuf · Mar 26, 2010

I would never believe that my staff are ignorant, since I hired most of them. They are highly intelligent and am proud to work with them AND park along side of them in the same lot. I believe there is good and bad in administration as there is in floor staff. We all know how to just deal with it and life goes on. I don't think it is anything to get the dander up about.

eriksoln, BSN, RN · Mar 26, 2010

the thread implies that some "business casual" types have forgotten what it is to be a bedside nurse or perhaps never knew in the first place. which is true. but much of the rest of the thread heatedly explains that the "business casual" types have risen above mere bedside nursing and deserves the covered parking place and the corner office. or that they're ever so much happier since they left the bedside and the rest of us should do so, too, rather than perhaps love the bedside but participate in the occaisional vent about the business casual folks who give us one more form to fill out "because they're doing a study" and nevermind that we're already charting our hourly glucoses in four different spots in three different programs and that perhaps the study folks could pull their data from that.
in their rush to defend themselves, the business casual folks do send the message that they believe bedside nurses are a bunch of ignorant children to be treated like such.

yeah, thats the one thing thats been in the back of my mind throughout this whole thread.

most "suits" i know, be it supervisors, managers, admin., research people...................about 90% of them will tell you:

"i would never go back to bedside nursing. i got away from it for a reason. if i had to go back to it, i'd retire from the medical field entirely and go into something else."

now, i don't have a problem with that per say. they decided it was not for them and did whatever they had to do to find something more "suitable" lol, no pun intended.

what i do have a problem with are the one's who one day will say what i described above, then they will send endless emails to you about "this and that needs done better" or "we are creating a new form since this and that seem to keep getting missed".

its almost like some of em have completely lost that part of their memory about what it was like on our side of the fence. they leave the bedside and...............bam...........something happens and they are doing the same things they used to complain about the "suits" doing. i don't get it.