Members are discussing the admissions process, including deadlines, reference requirements, and decision timelines. Some members have received updates on their applications, while others are still waiting. There is also a mention of financial aid workshops and strategies for financing the program.
I don't think there is a thread for Yale GEPN applicants for Fall 2025 start, so here it is! Let's share knowledge and cheer each other on⭐! Also, if there is an existing thread, please let me know.
I want to submit my application soon, but I keep re-reading and editing my essays... Anyone else doing the same thing? I have been out of school for almost 10 years, and I'm getting flashbacks to high school/undergrad days!
Additionally, has anyone sent a transcript via Parchment? My transcript should have been received by Oct 21, but on NursingCAS, it says it hasn't received.
Thanks, and I look forward to communicating with you all!
Also GEPN-CNM! I was offered $9K merit per year and $2K need but not sure how that was calculated I haven't submitted the FAFSA... I knew they considered everyone for merit with their application but thought it was one of those things they just say and maybe one person will get a couple grand so that's cool.
I'm finishing up my BA this year and so excited to start midwifery school next year! Still waiting to consider all my options especially since I don't know how to drive...
Curious for people in dual CNM/WHNP why they chose both? I've spoken to a few people and it seems like the scope of CNM covers everything WHNP can do (but a WHNP cannot do everything a CNM can do) so is there a benefit to having a WHNP credential as well?
As hospitals and the general population become more familiar with midwives, there isn't any major benefit of adding the WHNP if you a CNM. Some minor benefits are that a provider can use their WHNP in a OP setting and be more easily hired because malpractice insurance is less since you do not deliver babies as a WHNP. This really only applies to private practice as FQHCs have FTCA protections. The other benefit is if you are planning to care for menopausal or a heavily LGBTQ population where prescribing as a WHNP is easier for HRT, depending on your state and state laws.
For YSN, I believe the program no longer offers the dual speciality. The Class of 2026 was the last class to be offered the option of the dual specialty. Every incoming student has to choose either CNM or WHNP when they apply to the program going forward.
As hospitals and the general population become more familiar with midwives, there isn't any major benefit of adding the WHNP if you a CNM. Some minor benefits are that a provider can use their WHNP in a OP setting and be more easily hired because malpractice insurance is less since you do not deliver babies as a WHNP. This really only applies to private practice as FQHCs have FTCA protections. The other benefit is if you are planning to care for menopausal or a heavily LGBTQ population where prescribing as a WHNP is easier for HRT, depending on your state and state laws.
For YSN, I believe the program no longer offers the dual speciality. The Class of 2026 was the last class to be offered the option of the dual specialty. Every incoming student has to choose either CNM or WHNP when they apply to the program going forward.
I got an email in October that they brought back the dual specialty this year because there was so much interest. So it seems to be offered for our class.
As hospitals and the general population become more familiar with midwives, there isn't any major benefit of adding the WHNP if you a CNM. Some minor benefits are that a provider can use their WHNP in a OP setting and be more easily hired because malpractice insurance is less since you do not deliver babies as a WHNP. This really only applies to private practice as FQHCs have FTCA protections. The other benefit is if you are planning to care for menopausal or a heavily LGBTQ population where prescribing as a WHNP is easier for HRT, depending on your state and state laws.
For YSN, I believe the program no longer offers the dual speciality. The Class of 2026 was the last class to be offered the option of the dual specialty. Every incoming student has to choose either CNM or WHNP when they apply to the program going forward.
The dual WHNP/CNM was offered for my class of 2027 but I chose not to apply to it because I wasn't interested in working as a CNM.
The dual WHNP/CNM was offered for my class of 2027 but I chose not to apply to it because I wasn't interested in working as a CNM.
That makes total sense! I guess I was wondering for students who want to do CNM what the added benefit of adding WHNP is since CNM scope includes WHNP scope, (like it makes sense why someone would pick one over the other but why pursue both) but someone above explained it above in a helpful way!
That makes total sense! I guess I was wondering for students who want to do CNM what the added benefit of adding WHNP is since CNM scope includes WHNP scope, (like it makes sense why someone would pick one over the other but why pursue both) but someone above explained it above in a helpful way!
Nice! Yeah I heard it's easier to have the CNM/WHNP for malpractice licensing and some employers like you to have both to hire one person who can do it all within both scopes of practice. Not many programs offer the dual specialty, so if you're interested in CNM, it may not hurt to pursue the WHNP as well if you have the time and money.
Nice! Yeah I heard it's easier to have the CNM/WHNP for malpractice licensing and some employers like you to have both to hire one person who can do it all within both scopes of practice. Not many programs offer the dual specialty, so if you're interested in CNM, it may not hurt to pursue the WHNP as well if you have the time and money.
Totally! I guess what I was wondering is if there is added benefit besides insurance/bureaucratic stuff if the CNM scope includes the WHNP scope or is there something additional with WHNP like more primary care that CNM cannot also cover? I went back and forth quite a bit about it.
Totally! I guess what I was wondering is if there is added benefit besides insurance/bureaucratic stuff if the CNM scope includes the WHNP scope or is there something additional with WHNP like more primary care that CNM cannot also cover? I went back and forth quite a bit about it.
The added benefits would be marketability, depending on your state, and the WHNP's focus on care throughout the lifespan and chronic health management which would be handy if you have an interest in primary care.
I got an email in October that they brought back the dual specialty this year because there was so much interest. So it seems to be offered for our class.
Thank you for the update. Good to know they kept the dual program.
Totally! I guess what I was wondering is if there is added benefit besides insurance/bureaucratic stuff if the CNM scope includes the WHNP scope or is there something additional with WHNP like more primary care that CNM cannot also cover? I went back and forth quite a bit about it.
I have both certifications and if I remember correctly you do need to take additional primary care hours before you can sit for both certifications. It was about 500 additional clinical hours so you get more exposure to primary care which I found useful when I first started in clinical practice. During my time in the program, the student also had to pay additional tuition for the dual certification so individuals interested in the dual program will have to factor in the cost as well as additional clinical time. You will also have to pay two license fees and stay certified with two separate licensing bodies so you will need to keep enough CME hours for both. You recertify every 3 years for the WHNP and 5 years for the CNM. But overall, in terms of scope of practice, a CNM covers everything a WHNP can do. The other option is to pick one certification than come back and do a postgraduate certificate if you feel you need additional scope in your practice like an FNP or PNP.
Just wondering for anyone doing the MSN program do you plan on working during the program and if so when do you plan on applying for jobs
Depends on if you are a GEPN or a RN direct entry. If you are a GEPN, you won't be able to work during GEPN year because there isn't enough time to work and take classes. It is very accelerated and fast paced. If you come in as an RN or once you sit your NCLEX after GEPN year then you can work. The majority of my class worked when we were RNs.
I was just admitted to FNP as an RN entry student. Would love to join a Facebook group like the one above for RN-entry too!
I received 9k merit and 3k need based. Also planning on trying to negotiate to make this more affordable, or even see if I can get something in relocation covered. I was honestly surprised my need based was as low as it was. The only reason I haven't officially accepted my offer, but I totally plan on going.
Thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences and offers, I've been lurking and it's been super helpful!
Since you are RN entry, you will join the FB group for the Class of 2027 since you will complete your specialty coursework with the GEPNs that finished their accelerated year and have passed their NCLEX, who are now going into their first specialty year. The current group of GEPNs would have just finished their first semester and should now be on Christmas break. The FB group for them is Yale School of Nursing GEPN 2024.
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As hospitals and the general population become more familiar with midwives, there isn't any major benefit of adding the WHNP if you a CNM. Some minor benefits are that a provider can use their WHNP in a OP setting and be more easily hired because malpractice insurance is less since you do not deliver babies as a WHNP. This really only applies to private practice as FQHCs have FTCA protections. The other benefit is if you are planning to care for menopausal or a heavily LGBTQ population where prescribing as a WHNP is easier for HRT, depending on your state and state laws.
For YSN, I believe the program no longer offers the dual speciality. The Class of 2026 was the last class to be offered the option of the dual specialty. Every incoming student has to choose either CNM or WHNP when they apply to the program going forward.