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On 5/5/2020 at 10:05 PM, happygal56 said:

And we have an electoral college precisely so that the popular vote does not determine our President. 

Because the founding fathers didn’t want regular people to have too much say in the government. It’s a process that is not beyond reproach.

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16 minutes ago, HiddencatBSN said:

Because the founding fathers didn’t want regular people to have too much say in the government. It’s a process that is not beyond reproach.

True. So many people hang their hats of the framers and keeping their 'vision' of America while ignoring that vision included women and slaves as property, and male land owners held the power. 

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5 hours ago, TriciaJ said:

Your hubby sounds a lot like my ex.  He should be grateful to have you; at least he won't starve.  I agree that the hardest-hit will be those living paycheque to paycheque and not because they're low-income earners.  However, I doubt this will be the wakeup call so many need.  As soon as the crisis is averted the big spending will resume.

He's loves my paycheck (cough), I mean he loves me.  Like you said, roof over head and food in belly.  I myself just feel like I'm too old to start over, and as long as finances are separate, he can't take me down too much.

I agree, I think too many are living way beyond their means, and they aren't going to give this wake up call any thought beyond the end of the crisis

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40 minutes ago, HiddencatBSN said:

Because the founding fathers didn’t want regular people to have too much say in the government. It’s a process that is not beyond reproach.

If you know your history you know that the Electoral college was developed at a time when many states were sparsely populated and the framer's of the system wanted to be sure that the interests of all Americans were represented not just the interests of a few rich politicians in areas of high population density. 

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43 minutes ago, HiddencatBSN said:

Because the founding fathers didn’t want regular people to have too much say in the government. It’s a process that is not beyond reproach.

at the same time, the outcome shouldn't just be determined by a few counties in the country, when we have varying views from all over

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9 minutes ago, Hoosier_RN said:

He's loves my paycheck (cough), I mean he loves me.  Like you said, roof over head and food in belly.  I myself just feel like I'm too old to start over, and as long as finances are separate, he can't take me down too much.

I thought married people share debt that has happened during the marriage? Are you sure you wouldn't be held responsible for half his debt?

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25 minutes ago, lifelearningrn said:

True. So many people hang their hats of the framers and keeping their 'vision' of America while ignoring that vision included women and slaves as property, and male land owners held the power. 

The same people who had slaves and subjugated women were the very people who did not want an Electoral college. Many rural states who did not have slavery and granted woman's suffrage long before 1920, saw these things as State's rights not to be dictated by Federal Law. Take some time to read about "Bloody Kansas."   Hppy

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4 hours ago, lifelearningrn said:

I thought married people share debt that has happened during the marriage? Are you sure you wouldn't be held responsible for half his debt?

It depends - If a married couple keeps their income separate and never comingles debt or pays joint taxes they be able to avoid joint responsibility.

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I really enjoy when these threads veer off subject to bit. Some people will cry, off topic!

I say, it's lovely the way conversations go down different roads. That's like a real conversation. It's normal to go off on tangents.

 

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3 hours ago, hppygr8ful said:

If you know your history you know that the Electoral college was developed at a time when many states were sparsely populated and the framer's of the system wanted to be sure that the interests of all Americans were represented not just the interests of a few rich politicians in areas of high population density. 

The Electoral College increased the slave—holding states’ weight in the election significantly because the roughly equal-population north and south had different suffrage rates because about a third of the south’s population were slaves. This was discussed explicitly in the Philadelphia Convention and was considered an important compromise in favor of the south. 

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3 hours ago, Hoosier_RN said:

at the same time, the outcome shouldn't just be determined by a few counties in the country, when we have varying views from all over

Eh, not sure I agree with that. I don’t think someone’s vote should count more because they live in a less populous state. Adding in the imbalance of senator representation to state population, 2/3 of the government which chooses the other 1/3 is weighted towards the politics and interests of a minority of voters. 

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20 hours ago, lifelearningrn said:

I thought married people share debt that has happened during the marriage? Are you sure you wouldn't be held responsible for half his debt?

If you aren't on that loan/debt, you aren't responsible. I've been married 2x before,  and they both thought same as you. Imagine their surprise during divorce hearings when the judge told them that, no, they are in fact responsible for anything that they incurred with their name on it. For me to have been responsible,  I would have had to cosign, or have the debt assigned by the court. My first marriage, my credit was so bad, I couldn't cosign anything, but the judges words taught me a powerful lesson in money management and maintaining credit history. 

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