Why are some staff nurses such HATERS!

*PICURN* · Mar 15, 2005

ha ha i used to work as an "in-house registry" as a CNA type job and got the same crap

Tweety, BSN, RN · Mar 15, 2005

The same reason some agency nurses are such haters. Why is this?

Haters are going to hate. Don't worry about it.

pmchap · Mar 15, 2005

Do you as an agency nurse really get paid that much more - once you take away the no holiday pay thing I would imagine it would be fairly close. A bit like saying I will pay you 1,000 an hour - but you can only work one hour a week and have to be available as free support for the rest of the week.... my point is an hourly rate says very little about what you are actually earning.

Cheers

Peter

Tweety, BSN, RN · Mar 15, 2005

Do you as an agency nurse really get paid that much more - once you take away the no holiday pay thing I would imagine it would be fairly close. A bit like saying I will pay you 1,000 an hour - but you can only work one hour a week and have to be available as free support for the rest of the week.... my point is an hourly rate says very little about what you are actually earning.
Cheers
Peter

I worked with agency nurses that bragged about making $30.00/hr. I make $29.00 as a staff nurse here. But I never told them, as I don't brag about my salary.

But more and more agencies are coming up with good benefits, including insurance and vacation time, to go along with the good pay, so for the most part they do indeed make more than staff.

Staff nurses always have the choice to go agency if they want to. There's no need to disrespect or treat an agency nurse any different because they are making more. More power to them. I have my reasons not to go agency.

mommatrauma, RN · Mar 15, 2005

They walk around grumbling all day about you getting paid more than them. They think you should work harder because you are making a few more dollars. As if they can't work agency too!
Some nurses are so sad!

As I have worked Agency in the past, I do have to admit there were certainly grumblings about the amts of money I was making...In our general area, yes agency nurses definitely made more money than the staff nurses, and not on holidays...on regular days and on weekends...sometimes by at least $10-$15 per hour depending on years of service and/or hospital you worked at. The sad part is, your comment about the "some nurses are so sad," i think by simply saying that, you actually included yourself in that. The sad part is that you are a nurse talking about other nurses like that...did you ever think that's why they aren't very fond of having you around...its that kind of attitude that causes a disconnect between floor and agency nurses...You also have to see it from their point of view...They work full time and most bust their a$$ for their money day in and day out...they are used to working full time under less than optimal conditions, they are frustrated, they are overworked, they are underpaid, they also have to hear how their hospital has no money to pay them or to improve conditions or to have any retention or recruitment and in the same breath pay outside nurses to do the same job for more money. I think they have a right to be a little frustrated. Yes, they could easily go out and work agency, however its not for everyone...some specialties there aren't as many hours available therefore not offering steady gauranteed work..not to mention, they have probably put in 10 years service with the same health system and they would lose all of their seniority. So agency nursing is not for everyone...I have a child and I need week in and week out gauranteed hours...I like that I consistantly can go to the same place now and work the same hours. That is why I left agency. It was great when I was in my early 20's but its not as feasible for me now. So instead of jumping all over them and saying how sad they are, how about empathizing with their cause and supporting them rather than working against them...I agree there are also those that are chronic mal-contents....however there are a some great staff nurses out there that just work hard for their money the best way they know how and certainly don't need people that are their equals talking down to them...two wrongs don't make it right...

kc2004 · Mar 16, 2005

As I have worked Agency in the past, I do have to admit there were certainly grumblings about the amts of money I was making...In our general area, yes agency nurses definitely made more money than the staff nurses, and not on holidays...on regular days and on weekends...sometimes by at least $10-$15 per hour depending on years of service and/or hospital you worked at. The sad part is, your comment about the "some nurses are so sad," i think by simply saying that, you actually included yourself in that. The sad part is that you are a nurse talking about other nurses like that...did you ever think that's why they aren't very fond of having you around...its that kind of attitude that causes a disconnect between floor and agency nurses...You also have to see it from their point of view...They work full time and most bust their a$$ for their money day in and day out...they are used to working full time under less than optimal conditions, they are frustrated, they are overworked, they are underpaid, they also have to hear how their hospital has no money to pay them or to improve conditions or to have any retention or recruitment and in the same breath pay outside nurses to do the same job for more money. I think they have a right to be a little frustrated. Yes, they could easily go out and work agency, however its not for everyone...some specialties there aren't as many hours available therefore not offering steady gauranteed work..not to mention, they have probably put in 10 years service with the same health system and they would lose all of their seniority. So agency nursing is not for everyone...I have a child and I need week in and week out gauranteed hours...I like that I consistantly can go to the same place now and work the same hours. That is why I left agency. It was great when I was in my early 20's but its not as feasible for me now. So instead of jumping all over them and saying how sad they are, how about empathizing with their cause and supporting them rather than working against them...I agree there are also those that are chronic mal-contents....however there are a some great staff nurses out there that just work hard for their money the best way they know how and certainly don't need people that are their equals talking down to them...two wrongs don't make it right...

i thought the reason units used AGENCY nurses was BECAUSE they

are short staffed and need the extra help. The nurses should be

welcoming Agency nurses with open arms instead of leering eyes.

happthearts · Mar 16, 2005

i thought the reason units used AGENCY nurses was BECAUSE they
are short staffed and need the extra help. The nurses should be
welcoming Agency nurses with open arms instead of leering eyes.

I have only had one hospitial (not) tell me how happy they were to have me because of the money Issue. The diffrence is you work a hospitial you have more job security when the censes goes down agencys is gone .Plus the hospitial doesn't have to pay the health insurance.I was very forunate to have a set scedule of 3 years at one hospitial , went all over the hospitial. When Presdent Carter came into office I lost my job due to cut backs and was out of work 3 MTS Before I found another hospitial job.

So you may make money through the agency and you may have to wait awhile for a job Kind of a crap shoot.

I work for a Home care agency now directing care so I have full time.

CHPN1680 · Mar 16, 2005

i thought the reason units used AGENCY nurses was BECAUSE they
are short staffed and need the extra help. The nurses should be
welcoming Agency nurses with open arms instead of leering eyes.

Absolutely! I have always been glad for the help. I always try to give an extra detailed report and a quick orientation to the unit. The patients deserve that.

grammyr · Mar 16, 2005

As in any job, there are good and bad. I am always glad to see agency nurses unless they are dressed in street clothes, do not bring their license the first time they are at our facility, and start out blaming somebody else because they are late. And, above all, DO NOT come in telling me how much money you are making.

mommatrauma, RN · Mar 16, 2005

i thought the reason units used AGENCY nurses was BECAUSE they
are short staffed and need the extra help. The nurses should be
welcoming Agency nurses with open arms instead of leering eyes.

It is true, they do, and I am sure the nurses are grateful for any help they receive. But the already stressed nurses don't need to have thrown in their faces how the agency nurse is making more money an hour for the same job and how the agency nurse doesn't need the hospital the hospital needs the agency nurse....We're all in this together, for patient care...if we can't play nice with each other, that will be reflected in our patient care...

kjt2004 · Mar 16, 2005

You are absolutely right two wrongs don't make a right.

But i do not think i am wrong for venting here how i feel about the terrible things my colleagues are doing to me.

At work, I just grin and bear it! When they give me the sickest, heaviest(500lbs+), most confused patients...it is just unfair. I run around all day like a chicken without a head while they sit on the internet and socialize. Then the icing on the cake is when they tell me i have to admit another patient.

In addition to giving me the worst assignemnt they also grumble all day about how much money i make and how rich i am. If i was so rich i definitely will not be working my a#@ off there and putting up with their b@# s%$#@!

They don't realize they have alot that i don't have: paid vacation, sick time, job security, pension,excellent benfits,etc.

I never and i repeat never give them the satisfaction of knowing that i am annoyed my their snyde comments and unfair assignments. I smile the entire day, joke with them, and just play along. Because at the end of the day as i said before they are not signing my paycheck.

So, yes these are sad nurses.

When i was staff i embraced the agency and travel nurses because i wanted them to come back. I thankful for the supplemental staff.

As far as these nurses not wanting to leave their job because of seniority. That is not my problem. That is their personal problem and should not be taken out on others.

My philosophy in life is to make myself and my family happy. So if i am unhappy at a job, I leave. There is no reason for me to stick around and feel abused and unappeciated.

So you are probably thinking that "some people don't like change". I don't like change, however it is part of life. If you cannot adjust to change then you are in trouble.

So the answer is NO-NO-NO...I cannot empathize with these nurses.

There is no ligitimate reason for them to be cruel.

As I have worked Agency in the past, I do have to admit there were certainly grumblings about the amts of money I was making...In our general area, yes agency nurses definitely made more money than the staff nurses, and not on holidays...on regular days and on weekends...sometimes by at least $10-$15 per hour depending on years of service and/or hospital you worked at. The sad part is, your comment about the "some nurses are so sad," i think by simply saying that, you actually included yourself in that. The sad part is that you are a nurse talking about other nurses like that...did you ever think that's why they aren't very fond of having you around...its that kind of attitude that causes a disconnect between floor and agency nurses...You also have to see it from their point of view...They work full time and most bust their a$$ for their money day in and day out...they are used to working full time under less than optimal conditions, they are frustrated, they are overworked, they are underpaid, they also have to hear how their hospital has no money to pay them or to improve conditions or to have any retention or recruitment and in the same breath pay outside nurses to do the same job for more money. I think they have a right to be a little frustrated. Yes, they could easily go out and work agency, however its not for everyone...some specialties there aren't as many hours available therefore not offering steady gauranteed work..not to mention, they have probably put in 10 years service with the same health system and they would lose all of their seniority. So agency nursing is not for everyone...I have a child and I need week in and week out gauranteed hours...I like that I consistantly can go to the same place now and work the same hours. That is why I left agency. It was great when I was in my early 20's but its not as feasible for me now. So instead of jumping all over them and saying how sad they are, how about empathizing with their cause and supporting them rather than working against them...I agree there are also those that are chronic mal-contents....however there are a some great staff nurses out there that just work hard for their money the best way they know how and certainly don't need people that are their equals talking down to them...two wrongs don't make it right...