I know this has been discussed before but my situation is a bit different. Quick back-story:
Wanted to do ADN '12 but CC lost paperwork so that was on hold
Applied and got into BSN Spring '13 while waiting on CC
Applied for CC summer '13 and got acceptance on Tuesday :) and clinicals start January
I asked a few RNs which to choose and they all say BSN
Our hospital has no preference or pay diff but I get that maybe they want me to get the BSN now vs RN then BSN because life throws curve-balls. Well life threw me one and that's why I applied for the CC...
Im 25, married, mortgage, and mom will have to come live with us until she can work so I have to cover her bills... so I wont be able to afford my BSN.
But why are RNs advising me to get into debt for school despite knowing my acceptance to a good school? (hospital has partnership with them). Im not in a BSN preferred area either and my hospital will pay 100% RN-BSN.
PMFB-RN, you do not need to justify an error :). We are not children; we are adults. Your advice is sound and non-judgmental and that makes it easier to digest and evaluate.
The fact is "if" my hubby gets ill or I get prego after the optional ADN, I'd rather it happen then while I can work and have a degree to my name, than to have it happen in the middle of my BSN program and risk dropping out.
Thank you all for your help. It IS appreciated and as I have said numerous times, I have only asked advice on half the story and its deeper than whats stated. And even with that, you have provided me with the necessary possibilities to make an informed decision and thats what I asked for.
Okay, I must have misinterpreted your multiple posts.
Good luck.
Validation would be me needing you guys to conclusively support what I already think. I asked for advice which is to seek counsel, recommendation and opinions DESPITE what I think. I see a difference
Validation would be me needing you guys to conclusively support what I already think. I asked for advice which is to seek counsel, recommendation and opinions DESPITE what I think. I see a difference
And I said I misinterpreted your posts & good luck.
In my opinion, DESPITE what you think, I do believe you "already think" you are going to go for the ADN. If so, that's great! No one is putting you down for it.
But you have repeatedly posted the similar question: "should i do the ADN or stay at the BSN program". There's only so much advice the people of the internet can give you. The pros & cons were given multiple times.
no biggie... ... I asked again because things changed and I assumed someone else would have experienced the whole "mother coming to live with us and I have to cover her expenses" change... my bad...
no biggie... ... I asked again because things changed and I assumed someone else would have experienced the whole "mother coming to live with us and I have to cover her expenses" change... my bad...
Duly noted...
I think our point is that "life" can happen no matter which program you go to. I also think one of the PP was questioning things bc after 4 pgs of advice, you didn't recognize that the "reasons" PP have given earlier were valid. That's all.
No, I get what is being said and have updated my pros vs con list and life plan accordingly. I did not negate anyone's reasoning; what I did was simply clarify why I was questioning my BSN program. Just because I do not 100% agree with a particular advice/reasoning, does not mean I did not respect it or wont take it into consideration. Sorry if I made anyone feel otherwise. Yes, I care about your opinions and advice or I would have never asked in the first place and I would have stopped replying when I was given advice contrary to what I had previously believed.
If it was more affordable I would not second-guess it at all but with mom in the mix, I cannot afford to take out 30K debt for a 4-yr BSN when I can do ADN then RN-BSN at half the cost and would be manageable to pay OOP
I guess I just dont see the benefit of my 4-yr program after all these changes but I could be wrong
Maybe I should have been more specific and say that I will not be able to afford my current BSN program; not that I wont ever do one... I will bridge
Let me tell you this.......I had the same idea.....about 6 years ago.... I only wanted a 2 year RN, I didn't want a BSN, that was only for managers.....then I couldn't get into the RN program so I did LPN instead. THEN I said, I'll go back to school and JUST get my ADN.....and everyone kept saying "You need your BSN." No, I don't.....I don't want to go into management. Fast forward 2.5 years ago......LPN jobs getting scarce. I didn't get promotions because I wasn't a RN....everything i wanted to do, I was told, nope, sorry, you need to be a RN. So I looked into RN school....and it was cheaper for my to get a BSN instead of just an ADN. I looked at every possible angle.....CC, Excelsior, the College Network. Fast forward to today.....July 17, I finished my BSN. There, now I don't have to worry about the "You can't do that, you don't have a BSN."
First of all there is no evidence that ADN's have a harder time finding work than BSNs. The only study I'm aware of, done in Arizona, showed no difference despite numerous employers claiming a preference for BSN Nurses.
There is also no evidence that BSN prepared Nurses provide better care or outcomes than ADN nurses in the wake of the changes that occurred following the Aiken studies, which resulted in the majority of ADN programs adopting BSN curriculum.
Yes, there is. Evidenced based practice. Do a search in your choice of nursing journal and you will find them.
Let me tell you this.......I had the same idea.....about 6 years ago.... I only wanted a 2 year RN, I didn't want a BSN, that was only for managers.....then I couldn't get into the RN program so I did LPN instead. THEN I said, I'll go back to school and JUST get my ADN.....and everyone kept saying "You need your BSN." No, I don't.....I don't want to go into management. Fast forward 2.5 years ago......LPN jobs getting scarce. I didn't get promotions because I wasn't a RN....everything i wanted to do, I was told, nope, sorry, you need to be a RN. So I looked into RN school....and it was cheaper for my to get a BSN instead of just an ADN. I looked at every possible angle.....CC, Excelsior, the College Network. Fast forward to today.....July 17, I finished my BSN. There, now I don't have to worry about the "You can't do that, you don't have a BSN."
Very inspirational, motivational and true. Thanks for sharing.
I think what is throwing people off is that they are missing you can't complete the BSN program in just 2 years even with your general ed requirements completed. The university where I competed my first degree (not nursing) was much the same way. You started with classes within your major your freshmen year and took at least one every semester. It made it hard for transfer students to finish on time. Many universities follow the formula of freshman and sophomore year are general ed requirements then junior and senior year focus on classes within your major. I think given the usual set-up of the program it probably does make more sense to complete the ADN first.
... I asked again because things changed and I assumed someone else would have experienced the whole "mother coming to live with us and I have to cover her expenses" change... my bad...
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PMFB-RN, you do not need to justify an error :). We are not children; we are adults. Your advice is sound and non-judgmental and that makes it easier to digest and evaluate.
The fact is "if" my hubby gets ill or I get prego after the optional ADN, I'd rather it happen then while I can work and have a degree to my name, than to have it happen in the middle of my BSN program and risk dropping out.
Thank you all for your help. It IS appreciated and as I have said numerous times, I have only asked advice on half the story and its deeper than whats stated. And even with that, you have provided me with the necessary possibilities to make an informed decision and thats what I asked for.