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Why Nurses Are Leaving the Bedside In Droves

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benharold1 has 35 years experience as a BSN.

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I love to give baths and basic care and know it is part of nursing care, but when you work with nurses aides that play with their phones or on the computer and don't do their work and management does not hold them responsible it's just ridiculous and the nurses will care for the patient's because otherwise they would be neglected.  Then management complains when your overtime.  That's why I'm looking for a new job!

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Bri1231 has 20 years experience as a BSN, RN.

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1 hour ago, benharold1 said:

I love to give baths and basic care and know it is part of nursing care, but when you work with nurses aides that play with their phones or on the computer and don't do their work and management does not hold them responsible it's just ridiculous and the nurses will care for the patient's because otherwise they would be neglected.  Then management complains when your overtime.  That's why I'm looking for a new job!

This is true. I have of course seen the aide that I asked an hour ago to get vitals sat chilling on the phone or hiding in a cupboard somewhere. There is always that one or two. I have also seen that nurse that sits at the nurses station looking at amazon that an aide asked for assistance with a turn an hour ago and the nurse says im doing my charting you will have to wait. There is a 50/50 thing there. Nurses and Aides are bad for this and you find the type basically on every unit/facility. Not all, but a lot. 

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Bri1231 has 20 years experience as a BSN, RN.

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4 hours ago, Workitinurfava said:

I heard this a lot more when it came to home health, the visits. 

🤨It is a sad thing.

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benharold1 has 35 years experience as a BSN.

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It is sad that nursing care now revolves around census and money.  I have been a nurse for a long time and am planning to leave my current job exactly for those reasons.  I have been chastised by management for speaking-up concerning unsafe conditions.  I no longer want to be legally liable for the unsafe conditions that jeopardize patients and my license.  I have the fortune to have been hired in a non-cooperate setting. I will be making less but will at least be assured that I can provide safe, compassionate , loving care to my patients. 

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Nurselexii specializes in Non judgmental advisor.

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On 5/25/2019 at 7:47 AM, NICU Guy said:

They never wanted to be bedside nurses to begin with. Their plan after nursing school was to get the minimum amount of experience necessary and start on their Masters for NP. As soon as they are done with orientation in their first nursing job, they are signing up for NP classes. 

You took the words out of my mouth ! I was going to even go further with use their nursing degree to obtain non traditional nursing jobs I.e. cds or nurse coding or auditor where you can work from home and not have to touch a patient at all. Or marry up the medical chain mrs.degree (I hear a lot of this from nurses ) , the positive part about this is patients may start guarding their health more seriously by leading healthier lifestyles . The negative part of this is they may start importing bedside overseas nurses for lower pay and long term contracts in exchange for visas which may drive down Rn bedside pay overall , but decrease turnover 

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On 5/25/2019 at 8:26 AM, panurse9999 said:

I've heard that the corporate hospital systems are pushing the BSN-MSN-NP on all nursing staff. Its part of the systematic moving the goal post to the right, and embroiling the nurse into constant higher education, while working full time, for which there is never an increase in pay once attained. The pay rates are exactly the same for an ADN, BSN, or MSN who are bedside nurses in a hospital. I have speculated that the ultimate goal of the corporate hospitals is to have every nurse who works in the hospital be an NP, so they can cut out RNs entirely, and combine the NP job into one. 

Omg I love this ! And we know that they would love to do that! Np/bedside nurse /we will pay you the same as the ADN nurse (because studies show doctorate prepared bedside nurses havd more positive impact on patient care ) I love the honesty of this post and the responders , I thought I was the only one that was realizing what’s going on 

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On 5/26/2019 at 8:54 AM, panurse9999 said:

I am often mystified at why people "encourage" others to go into this profession, knowing full well what the profession has to offer 1. stress 2. back aches 3. bullying 4. required re-education out of pocket 5. corporate slavery ie..taking on more and more, and more until one explodes, without extra pay 6. A paycheck that subjectively shouts minimum wage for 4 jobs rolled into 1 job. 

No disrespect at all...just curious, and wondering if the bartending remark was tongue in cheek. Having a back-up profession is needed , and especially for males, who I have personally witnessed to have endured the worst bullying and mistreatment that the nursing field has to offer. The male nurse sabotage syndrome (I developed an acronym for it a while ago MNSS) is alive and well in nursing. I can go on and on about that topic, all by itself. 

It might be for the reason the first commenter said , to get in and then get out of the bedside as soon as possible , explore options such as remote work nurse coder , ANP, or the many opportunities outside bedside nursing that will arise in the future 

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On 5/26/2019 at 4:29 PM, myoglobin said:

I’ve seen and experienced the bullying. Also I still work for an HCA hospital, in Florida no less which many consider to be “the worst possible combination”. However, at the end of the day I’ve never been unemployed and I work with some people that I love and admire. I think that what certain people might be missing is how tough, competitive and even dehumanizing many jobs have become. In a world which is often becoming an Orwellian nightmare nursing may not be an oasis, but it very well may be a life raft to something better. Also, I wasn’t kidding about the bartending. In the 1990’s I waited tables at Max and Erma’s and seldom made less than $200.00 in tips for a double shift on  a Friday, Saturday or even Sunday. The bartenders that I knew usually doubled my take. Like nursing it was hard, stressful work. Then again I’ve never expected work to be fu, enjoyable or even rewarding only to allow me to sustain life when I’m not working.

I am probably over responding to everyone’s comment but I want to point out your statement about how other jobs are difficult and dehumanizing. I think that’s why many people may feel like they have to stay in nursing . (The following suggestion may be best suited for the millennial and young generation x ) but I think In this technological evolved world there are many technological well paying job opportunities, every hospital currently uses an EMR, and its hard to think of it but guess who is behind the structure , flow , creation and execution of those EMR’s? Very tech advanced people as well as medical professionals to make it easy to understand for nurses , what about those people you call in the help desk that transfers you to the tech guy who can fix your computer by remoting into it , they are literally working from home . 

 

 

Many nurses went to nursing school for the security , but all the administration side of nursing that has essentially made bedside nursing a terror can be done by nurses . I think even the fact that someone has been a bedside nurse first will really appreciate that cushy high paying secured job , such as auditing , consulting of emr software to hospitals , many people just feel like they can’t do anything else , but no nurse has to be the bottom of the food chain if they don’t want .

 

*please excuse all spelling errors 

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ArmyRntoMD has 6 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in Critical Care.

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I enjoy my job sometimes, but I didn’t choose nursing as a career but as an intermediate. I was premed, but my father died and my mom needed help with her epilepsy needs so I chose nursing as an immediate solution to that problem. However, now that the situation has restabilized, I have been back on the premed path and take my MCAT in May! 

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On 12/3/2019 at 3:37 PM, Nurselexii said:

I am probably over responding to everyone’s comment but I want to point out your statement about how other jobs are difficult and dehumanizing. I think that’s why many people may feel like they have to stay in nursing . (The following suggestion may be best suited for the millennial and young generation x ) but I think In this technological evolved world there are many technological well paying job opportunities, every hospital currently uses an EMR, and its hard to think of it but guess who is behind the structure , flow , creation and execution of those EMR’s? Very tech advanced people as well as medical professionals to make it easy to understand for nurses , what about those people you call in the help desk that transfers you to the tech guy who can fix your computer by remoting into it , they are literally working from home . 

 

 

Many nurses went to nursing school for the security , but all the administration side of nursing that has essentially made bedside nursing a terror can be done by nurses . I think even the fact that someone has been a bedside nurse first will really appreciate that cushy high paying secured job , such as auditing , consulting of emr software to hospitals , many people just feel like they can’t do anything else , but no nurse has to be the bottom of the food chain if they don’t want .

 

*please excuse all spelling errors 

It is not as simple as you make it appear. I had a non-nurse supervisor at a hospital call center. All my boss needed to get the job was a master's degree in business and some experience.  When ever I had questions about how to handle some of the patients medical issues, he quickly let me know that he is not a nurse and would not be able to help me. These types of situations are becoming more and more common.

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27 minutes ago, Workitinurfava said:

It is not as simple as you make it appear. I had a non-nurse supervisor at a hospital call center. All my boss needed to get the job was a master's degree in business and some experience.  When ever I had questions about how to handle some of the patients medical issues, he quickly let me know that he is not a nurse and would not be able to help me. These types of situations are becoming more and more common.

Morning ! I still don’t understand your comment in relation to my comment , it seems like you are validating my statement about how people should not go into nursing for security , and aim for administration type of healthcare jobs with no bedside experience but security in the field , 

 

i can only assume that your comment means that hiring non medical people on administrators roles in healthcare maybe unsafe and makes other healthcare people roles harder , but since healthcare is run and operated by the suits (wealthy people in power ) I don’t think they are bothered with safety or well being of patients , I’m waiting for the day they will soon allow non physicians to practice medicine so they can offer competing prices lol

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