Why cant New York residents get online NP program?

Sha-Sha RN · Dec 7, 2013

Here is a link that was posted on allnurses before. It takes you to a site on the nys office of professions where you can look up NYS approved programs and schools. I hope it helps.

http://www.highered.nysed.gov/ocue/ded/database.html

bebbercorn · Dec 10, 2013

Frontier Nursing University has an FNP online. They are at Frontier Nursing University - Distance Education from the Birthplace of Nurse-Midwifery and Family Nursing in America.

SierraBravo · Dec 21, 2013

To the best of my knowledge, SUNY Stony Brook has the only online approved NP programs in NYS.

automotiveRN67 · Dec 21, 2013

I'm confused. Why don't you just pick from any number of Online NP schools that allow you to sit for certification through the AANP (my preference) or the ANCC (not my preference)? I don't think NY has anything to do with it.

Advanced Practice Columnist / Guide · Dec 21, 2013

It looks like NY is very similar to CA as far as NP licensure. Graduates of programs registered with the NY State Department of Education are eligible for licensure without taking a national exam. Those who graduated from other schools (i.e., out of state and/or not registered with the NYSDE) must pass a national exam with AANP, ANCC, NBCHPN, NCC, ONCC, PNCB as the approved national boards. Note that AACN is not listed (important to know for ACNP's).

http://www.op.nysed.gov/prof/nurse/np.htm

zmansc, ASN, RN · Dec 21, 2013

Juan -

This is most likely out of your area of expertise, but I'll ask you anyways :)

If someone in CA/NY goes to one of these approved programs, and get's their license to practice without taking one of the national boards, are they then at a disadvantage in any way when they try to move to another state?

I'm assuming they would then have to take the national boards to get licensed in the other state. I know for my state you have to pass one of the national exams to apply for initial licensure, I would think you would have to do so for transfer of license as well, but I've not looked at that because it would never be an issue for me.

Just curious....

sugarsweet21612 · Dec 21, 2013

From what I know the majority of states require a certification exam. This follows the Consensus Model recommendations for APRN. I would advise any new grad to take a certification exam. You could always do this at a later date if need be but it seems better to get it over with ahead of time to me. You would probably end up being grandfathered in that state if they end up changing their requirements, but like I said, as far as I know it seems that CA and NY are rarities to still not require it.

Advanced Practice Columnist / Guide · Dec 22, 2013

Majority of the NP's I know in CA are nationally certified anyway. Our place of employment requires national certification within a year of hire. We've hired new grads from the university we are affiliated with - their advantage is that they can have their NP license sooner after graduation and get started on credentialing. They take the exam after they've been hired. I moved here from out of state where national certification is required so I had no problems getting a license in CA. Yes, it's beneficial to be nationally certified and there are only 4 states that don't require national certification now, KS and IN being the other ones. In CA and NY it only applies to graduates of state approved programs, not sure about KS and IN.

zmansc, ASN, RN · Dec 22, 2013

Thanks Juan,

It makes sense why they allow new grads to start working while studying for the boards. NM does it slightly differently, we have a GNP designation for new grads that have not taken their national certification exam. It is issued to the employer (hopefully you will have taken your boards before going out and getting your second job). I think it's good for six months or until you take your boards, whichever comes first. Fail the boards, and you have to stop practicing until you pass the boards. Unlike the CA approach it is not tied to specific programs however.

For some reason most of the new grad NPs I know have not taken advantage of this, I think they wanted to get the boards out of the way first and then focus on their new job after that.

-- bz

roseonye · Dec 24, 2013

I'm confused. Why don't you just pick from any number of Online NP schools that allow you to sit for certification through the AANP (my preference) or the ANCC (not my preference)? I don't think NY has anything to do with it.

All schools online i have check don't accept NY residents due to clinical reasons. According to them.

roseonye · Dec 24, 2013

Frontier Nursing University has an FNP online. They are at Frontier Nursing University - Distance Education from the Birthplace of Nurse-Midwifery and Family Nursing in America.

thank you.