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I was reading other threads and I came across students who were accepted to private nursing schools but declined their acceptance because of the tuition. If nursing is your passion by any means necessary you should do everything to accomplish your goal. In NY, nurses start off with 70K+ a year:yeah:, so in a rough estimate its possible to pay off large loans within 5-10 yrs. The cheaper schools are much more competitive to get into. If you get accepted into NYU, PACE, LIU etc. just go for it. Is anyone with me on this?
Here's the tuition costs for Duke 2009/2010$39,080 (not including books or room and board)
Their estimated cost of attendance is $53,390
Hope for a lot of aid/scholarships
Here are the costs for Duke's SON:
http://nursing.duke.edu/modules/son_financial/index.php?id=2
If the latter statement were true, then Brown-Mackie and Ace-Truck-Driving Close-Cover-Before-Striking School of Nursing would run every "spoiled rich kid" school out of business. The latter schools would then find a way to cut costs (and curricula) to come to within a thousand or so of the CC's (perhaps by relying more on correspondance courses?). As long as some of their students could pass the NCLEX, no one would care how they got the RN. r...
Do you know how many nursing schools have appeared just in the past several years?? and the classes are FULL. They are even expanding. But even so, there is no chance of putting any "spoiled rich kid - or private school of choice" out of business. Those colleges, with their high tuitions can more than "hold their own." And even when they dont need it, they have fundraisers.
I haven't read every post here but i'm just amazed at how much these schools are charging for a nursing education. In Australia the cost of becoming an RN (we don't have BSN, ADN, MSN just RN) is about 16,000 AUS for the three year course. That would be approximately 12, 800 US dollars.
Just because I'm curious (the name isn't a coincidence
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To do your master in nursing science at one of the universities in my state it costs $4,158 AUS per year. It is a year and a half course so would cost just over $6K, at current exchange rates would be less than $5K US. For an international student to do this course it would cost $18K AUS per year (approx $15K US).
And maybe I shouldn't mention that as an undergrad studying for their Bachelor of Nursing degree you can get a government loan that is interest free and don't have to start paying back until you earn a minimum amount per year, or a further discount if you pay up front.
Community College (from which I graduated): Nursing students upper echelon of all students.....new Micro and Anatomy labs, outfitted with the most up-to-date equipment, meticulously maintained.
Closest private university: Nursing students lower echelon (ranked well below the Med students)....old, run-down, out-dated labs. Leftovers and hand-me-downs from Med students.
(Result: Private school nursing students took as many lab courses as they could (without jeopardizing their full-time status at private school) at the CC.)
Community College: Small (15-20) classes, always MSN-prepared instructor. If you missed a significant class or suffered a health setback, instructor worked privately with you (to the point of coming to your home if necessary) to get you back up to speed.
Private University: Ginormous auditorium-type classes, with required small-group weekly "study group" led by upper-classmen.
Private University: NCLEX pass rate (average last 5 years): 83%
Community College: NCLEX pass rate (average last 5 years): 100%
It really does pay to do your research of any nursing school you are considering. On the previous post the CC appeared to be better and the private the worse choice. Not always true. Our local CC has the old lab, a large majority of instructors are extraordinarily unsupportive of their students (this comes from students that are going through or have been through the program), the no-pass % from yr 1 to yr 2 is high, the nursing program may potentially lose their accredidation because their NCLEX fail rate is higher than the national average. In this case there is no way the cost of going there could off-set the incredible stress of dealing with such a program on top of the stress of nursing school itself.
So always do your homework and weigh in all the factors that are most important to you. And once you do that then I say go with your gut. Ask yourself if you see yourself being successful going through the program. And if the answer is yes then go for it!
Community College (from which I graduated): Nursing students upper echelon of all students.....new Micro and Anatomy labs, outfitted with the most up-to-date equipment, meticulously maintained.Closest private university: Nursing students lower echelon (ranked well below the Med students)....old, run-down, out-dated labs. Leftovers and hand-me-downs from Med students.
(Result: Private school nursing students took as many lab courses as they could (without jeopardizing their full-time status at private school) at the CC.)
Community College: Small (15-20) classes, always MSN-prepared instructor. If you missed a significant class or suffered a health setback, instructor worked privately with you (to the point of coming to your home if necessary) to get you back up to speed.
Private University: Ginormous auditorium-type classes, with required small-group weekly "study group" led by upper-classmen.
Private University: NCLEX pass rate (average last 5 years): 83%
Community College: NCLEX pass rate (average last 5 years): 100%
In that case I would have definitely gone to the community college. Comparing my community college (where I've been doing prerequisites) to the private school I'll be going to, the NCLEX pass rate for the cc was 70% two years ago and was 80% last year while the private school I'll be going to has a pass rate of 95%. In my hometown the best nursing school in the area is a diploma program at the local catholic hosptial. You can't judge programs based on their type- gotta look at the details.
...and once again (with feeling): a person who would look at pass rate to determine which school has the better teachers is a person I would not want at my bedside as a Nurse. If they were so skilled at drawing spurious correlations, they might determine from my enlarged abdomen and increased need for micturition that I was pregnant.
Researching the program? Comments posted here about the CC I presently attend include, "Instructors are hostile to male students," and "incoming female students are advised to get 'sugar daddies' for the next two years."
Ah. But it's cheaper.
...and once again (with feeling): a person who would look at pass rate to determine which school has the better teachers is a person I would not want at my bedside as a Nurse. If they were so skilled at drawing spurious correlations, they might determine from my enlarged abdomen and increased need for micturition that I was pregnant.Researching the program? Comments posted here about the CC I presently attend include, "Instructors are hostile to male students," and "incoming female students are advised to get 'sugar daddies' for the next two years."
Ah. But it's cheaper.
Who said they're determining the quality of the teachers based solely on NCLEX pass rates?
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Here's the tuition costs for Duke 2009/2010
$39,080 (not including books or room and board)
Their estimated cost of attendance is $53,390
Hope for a lot of aid/scholarships
https://www.admissions.duke.edu/jump/applying/finaid.html