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I was reading other threads and I came across students who were accepted to private nursing schools but declined their acceptance because of the tuition. If nursing is your passion by any means necessary you should do everything to accomplish your goal. In NY, nurses start off with 70K+ a year:yeah:, so in a rough estimate its possible to pay off large loans within 5-10 yrs. The cheaper schools are much more competitive to get into. If you get accepted into NYU, PACE, LIU etc. just go for it. Is anyone with me on this?
I am at a CC now (I transfer to the University of Mammon this fall) and my two favorite prof's are MD's who have the brain-pans and resumes to rake in Serious Coin. One in particular talks about God a lot (a different one than mine, but that's ok) and says he's there to give back instead of pad his bank account. So, CC does not necessarily mean merely Triple-A ball. But the point remains that U of M pays more and demands more, and will likely get better instructors. When I transfer, I'll know my days of classes in a double-wide with broken a/c are over, and that I'll have counselors who'll stop me from making dumb freshman mistakes like signing up for 16-hours over an abbreviated summer semester. (I'm still on track to make Dean's List, but I'll be totally gray by August.)FWIW: 1) I'm transfering out of religious conviction, not low scores, 2) I'll be in Mammon's ASN program (later ASN to MSN), and 3) I checked with local Nurses: U of M gets Serious Respect around here.
Good points made here...but my friend at Columbia (super highly regarded prestigious nursing school) spent much of her first semester petitioning with other students to try to remove a couple of arrogant and totally incompetent professors. I was really surprised, considering the tuition she pays!
Nursing school utopia=affordable tuition, nice campus, well-equipped labs, good student services, great teachers, good job afterwards....did I leave anything out?:nuke: Does anyone know where we can find all this, guranteed?
Carolc, this time it is you who is making me laugh. I am currently in the classroom that has an air conditioner that will not cool the room enough and during the winter did not warm it enough either. Water leaks when it rains and when the wind blows....we wonder if the roof will hold. Our chairs have fallen apart at times....even with the nurse in it. But we pay a hefty sum to be here. As long as they can help me pass my NCLEX I will be where I want. Coffee machine? What we wouldn't give.....
I have to say, I'm surprised by the professors I encounter at various types of schools. Although I'm sure the prestige and pay of teaching at a school like Columbia attracts some good professors, I'm sure some of them are awful. I went to a prestigious private college for undergrad and had mostly good profs (even a few great ones) and a few really bad ones. When I did my prereqs at a community college, I had exclusively fantastic professors -- I was pleasantly surprised. One had taught at a fancy private college before deciding she didn't want to teach what she perceived to be rich, spoiled 18-year-olds who didn't really care about being there, she wanted to teach students who really wanted to learn. Another split her time between NYU and the CC and ended up being one of my favorite profs of all time. Another was very passionate about making great education available to anyone.
That's not to say that you can't find great profs at private schools, but that I've personally been surprised by the quality I've found at the CC. I also imagine that the severe shortage of nursing instructors (not to mention college politics) makes it harder for any school to be super selective about who they hire (and who they refuse to fire).
I also have to agree that, in the actual hospital, no one seems to care what school you went to! Given that it's such a big conversation here and among students (it's something I've given a lot of thought to), I was surprised. Part way through my externship, I asked my preceptor (who's WONDERFUL) what nursing school she went to. It turns out she went to a CC, and when she said it, many of her colleagues turned and said, "I didn't you know you went there -- I did too!" After being there for 6 years, most people just never bothered to ask her where she'd gone -- she's a great nurse, and I guess that's all that mattered.
I have to say, I'm surprised by the professors I encounter at various types of schools. Although I'm sure the prestige and pay of teaching at a school like Columbia attracts some good professors, I'm sure some of them are awful. I went to a prestigious private college for undergrad and had mostly good profs (even a few great ones) and a few really bad ones. When I did my prereqs at a community college, I had exclusively fantastic professors -- I was pleasantly surprised. One had taught at a fancy private college before deciding she didn't want to teach what she perceived to be rich, spoiled 18-year-olds who didn't really care about being there, she wanted to teach students who really wanted to learn. Another split her time between NYU and the CC and ended up being one of my favorite profs of all time. Another was very passionate about making great education available to anyone.
Wow! So glad that she was able to model an unbiased attitude for you and your class! I can see the quality you're speaking of...
I didn't mention that the prof who said she was tired of teaching spoiled kids did so in a private conversation, not in front of the class. Clearly, I'm not saying that's what private college students are, just that's what she perceived some of them to be (I had a great experience at my private college, where I met lots of very motivated, hard-working students. There were some spoiled ones who were just there because mom and dad wanted it, but I don't think I got really close to anyone like that). This particular prof had worked her way up from abuse and poverty in the middle east and I think wanted to teach students who were similarly putting themselves through the college, maybe as older students (I know she had several children when she began her college education) and personally motivated. Also, CC students aren't all necessarily as personally motivated she would have wanted them to be either!
My point was, she was actually a fantastic professor who really loved and went above and beyond for her students, who taught at a CC not because she couldn't get a job anywhere better, but because she felt like she could do a lot of good there. I was just trying to encourage people to reserve judgment about the kinds of students and professors you encounter at all kinds of schools, since I've had excellent professors at both.
I didn't mention that the prof who said she was tired of teaching spoiled kids did so in a private conversation, not in front of the class. Clearly, I'm not saying that's what private college students are, just that's what she perceived some of them to be (I had a great experience at my private college, where I met lots of very motivated, hard-working students. There were some spoiled ones who were just there because mom and dad wanted it, but I don't think I got really close to anyone like that). This particular prof had worked her way up from abuse and poverty in the middle east and I think wanted to teach students who were similarly putting themselves through the college, maybe as older students (I know she had several children when she began her college education) and personally motivated. Also, CC students aren't all necessarily as personally motivated she would have wanted them to be either!My point was, she was actually a fantastic professor who really loved and went above and beyond for her students, who taught at a CC not because she couldn't get a job anywhere better, but because she felt like she could do a lot of good there. I was just trying to encourage people to reserve judgment about the kinds of students and professors you encounter at all kinds of schools, since I've had excellent professors at both.
....and in doing so gave a fabulous example of judging private school kids. No matter who she said those things in front of. I'm really glad she's teaching folks she deems worthy of learning now....
Wow! So glad that she was able to model an unbiased attitude for you and your class! I can see the quality you're speaking of...
Easy there. No need to get offended by a poster's professor's perception of a private school you probably didn't go to. Spoiled 18 year olds exist, and some schools seem more prone to them than others. I think the point was just that the professor had the option to teach at a prestigious private school and ended up preferring a community college.
Easy there. No need to get offended by a poster's professor's perception of a private school you probably didn't go to. Spoiled 18 year olds exist, and some schools seem more prone to them than others. I think the point was just that the professor had the option to teach at a prestigious private school and ended up preferring a community college.
thanks I got the point, but stand by my comments. I'm an older student going back to school and not an 18-year old in a CC; it's not personal. I just think those comments shouldn't have been made to a student (privately or otherwise).
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I am at a CC now (I transfer to the University of Mammon this fall) and my two favorite prof's are MD's who have the brain-pans and resumes to rake in Serious Coin. One in particular talks about God a lot (a different one than mine, but that's ok) and says he's there to give back instead of pad his bank account. So, CC does not necessarily mean merely Triple-A ball. But the point remains that U of M pays more and demands more, and will likely get better instructors. When I transfer, I'll know my days of classes in a double-wide with broken a/c are over, and that I'll have counselors who'll stop me from making dumb freshman mistakes like signing up for 16-hours over an abbreviated summer semester. (I'm still on track to make Dean's List, but I'll be totally gray by August.)
FWIW: 1) I'm transfering out of religious conviction, not low scores, 2) I'll be in Mammon's ASN program (later ASN to MSN), and 3) I checked with local Nurses: U of M gets Serious Respect around here.