Wheres God?

derngrad06 · Aug 14, 2007

sounds like you are saying that i'm saying; "why me?" and conventional wisdom will probably say; why not me? my achievements and success are my own. i have people comming to me saying what is wrong with me. how do you answer that? i try not to. what do you say when all your classmates passed? and i know my good grades don't mean anything. i just have to make the nclex connection whatever that is. i am old enough and mature enough to take the perspective to stay strong, be positive that i will pass and not give up. and my life will go on regardless. when i said wheres god? i was stating that god did not create nclex and i need more than divine intervention. and i need more than people telling me to have happy thoughts and prayer. i need to make that nclex connection. so far nothing has worked for me and i have been out of school for eight months. after multiple failures i have a right to feel bitter if only for a short while. :uhoh3:

pagandeva2000, LPN · Aug 14, 2007

I do believe that NCLEX is a crapola test. In no way does it assure that a competent, culturally sensitive and consciensous nurse will walk out of there; what it does is ensure that we can regurgitate what they want to hear. And, the real world is nothing like NCLEX.

I can also sort of identify how you may be feeling about the Creator, but, also, look at it this way... (and you mentioned this yourself) God did not create NCLEX...humans did (unrealistic ones, I am sure, but humans, nonetheless). Maybe you are being protected from practicing for the moment for some strange reason that only the Creator knows. Or, it may be that you need a break from NCLEX at this time. Studying non-stop can also be a disadvantage. It is stressful to relive the past experiences. I would take a few months off to rest your brain from all of this. I remember doing that sometimes in school...leaving the studying alone for a few days and getting a good book to read instead. While I was pre-occupied, I would still be thinking about it, of course, but, after giving myself a break, I discovered that getting back into it gave me a clearer mind.

Taking NCLEX-PN is also a good suggestion. If you pass that, you can work as a nurse, become more exposed to the field and maybe begin applying things from experience rather than the books each and every day. It may also help you to see if nursing is for you. I certainly understand your feelings, though and you need time to just vent as you already have, grieve, identify your feelings and then move to do it again if that is what you wish. Best of luck to you and my heart is with you whatever you wish to do.

pagandeva2000, LPN · Aug 14, 2007

sounds like you are saying that i'm saying; "why me?" and conventional wisdom will probably say; why not me? my achievements and success are my own. i have people comming to me saying what is wrong with me. how do you answer that? i try not to. what do you say when all your classmates passed? and i know my good grades don't mean anything. i just have to make the nclex connection whatever that is. i am old enough and mature enough to take the perspective to stay strong, be positive that i will pass and not give up. and my life will go on regardless. when i said wheres god? i was stating that god did not create nclex and i need more than divine intervention. and i need more than people telling me to have happy thoughts and prayer. i need to make that nclex connection. so far nothing has worked for me and i have been out of school for eight months. after multiple failures i have a right to feel bitter if only for a short while.

no argument here...you have the right to be pissed off. i just don't want to see you get sucked up into that aspect and that is it. but, we all have to grieve and live through that anger.

pagandeva2000, LPN · Aug 14, 2007

I appreciate the advice but you see I was a nursing assistant for 13 years and have been an LPN for 4 years in a psychiatric facility. I graduated from an accredited ADN nursing program from a community college on 12/12/06. I was just venting my true feelings regarding NCLEX. I know there are people out there who failed the exam more times than me and they eventually passed. I am hopeful that I will pass someday. Its just so painful to sacrifice so much to get that ADN and can not get pass this exam. What works for one person does not work for everybody. I answered so many questions I can write my own NCLEX review book. Taking the NCLEX is like driving without a map. You know where you want to go but you are on your own on how to get there. In the meantime, take these expensive review courses like Kaplan, ATI, Feuer, and others because we have a high pass rate on NCLEX. My school boasted a high pass rate so much for my school. Just giving me a printout of what categories I was near or below the passing standard don't mean a thing to me. What do they expect a entry-level RN to know. I know we have to be safe in making nursing judgements. Who does not know that? You learn from experience the last time I've checked. As an LPN the safety of my patients always comes first. Maybe I will hit the NCLEX lottery someday before I go bankrupt. :uhoh21:

Oh, I didn't continue reading so I didn't know that you were already an LPN. I apologize for that. Again, I understand your feelings about NCLEX...I left there pissed off and I passed. I just thought that as you said, you are driving somewhere without a map. How is it that others made it to where they wanted to go without the map? That is how I would be thinking as well. ((Hugs to you))

derngrad06 · Aug 17, 2007

Thanks for the encouraging words. Some people are lucky in love, money, and good health. Let me say that my classmates earned their licenses and I am happy for them. We had study sessions during school for our exams and supported each other in clinicals. It still bothers me that of all of all the people in my graduating class I have to be the one that failed the NCLEX-RN three times. What is the divine reason for that? So far I have not received an answer that is acceptable to me. It seems to me that I have a black cloud over my head. I think that I have proved to God that I can sacrifice whatever I need to so I can reach my goal of finally finishing nursing school. I have went through many ups and downs when I was in school. It takes considerable strength to even survive nursing school and multiple faliures on NCLEX. I have more than proved that I am strong enough to deal with this. So now what else I have to prove to the Creator that I am worthy to have RN title after my name.

prmenrs, RN · Aug 17, 2007

I'd just like to suggest that God probably doesn't have any control over whether or not you pass NCLEX.

You may be frustrated, angry, dissappointed and ?embarrassed. Take a little bit of time to pull yourself together. Then get "back on the horse", and get ready to try again.

You might try pm'ing suzanne4--she has helped several people over this hurdle.

God is a terrific support, but s/he isn't going take that dang test for you.

derngrad06 · Aug 17, 2007

I am already in the process of "getting back on the horse and try again." Maybe divine intervention is of no use in this situation. I got my health, I employed as an LPN for four years, and I have the same determination to see this through. Since I have already done Kaplan, ATI, and nursinglearningtext.com with no positive results. Just a waste of time and money. I have already did a considerable amount of questions in the 3rd Edition of Saunders Q&A Review for the NCLEX-RN Examination. It is just a Q&A book with a CD-ROM among the others I already have. So what can Suzanne do for me? And from I already read on some posts even what she offers does not work for everybody. Just like anything else there are no guarantees in anything. And I am not looking for any. I will just go back to basics and review my nursing notes and text. Don't be too quick to judge. I know god is not going to take the "dang" test for me. But I have every right to question gods presence and question his wisdom. How else am I going to learn about his plan for me. Let it be known that I am determined to pass this exam. Just maybe its the determination that I have within me is already my answer to the question of Wheres GOD?

Tweety, BSN, RN · Aug 17, 2007

Good luck to you. It must be frustrating to read on forums like this "Praise God whom all blessings flow and who I give all glory for passing NCLEX" and being told to pray about it, and yet continue to fail.

Best wishes in all that you do.

cardiacRN2006, ADN, RN · Aug 17, 2007

I'd like to think that God doesn't micro-manage people's lives.

Perhaps he's doing something bigger like trying to protect soldiers, or hearing prayers of trapped miners instead of helping people pass a test.

pagandeva2000, LPN · Aug 18, 2007

I can't deny it...I would wonder, too. I wish I had answers; may they be divine or common sense, but it frustrates me that I don't. I hate to see people who have literally killed themselves, became broke and have done all they can do, and yet, do not pass this exam. I wish I were a genie in a bottle that can blink like Barbara Eden and make this test a breeze for you. But, I am willing to listen whenever you wish to post. Best wishes in your journey. (((Hugs to you)))

derngrad06 · Aug 18, 2007

dear cardiacRN2006,

If God is omnipresent like we were all taught to believe he is; you don't have to be a trapped miner or a soldier fighting in a war to receive the blessings of God. There is nothing too big or to small for God to handle. With that being said; the risk of death is real in mining and being a casualty of war is real for any soldier. We can all pray for the safe return of our troops and the trapped miners. In the meantime, one can seek guidance in our personal lives for whatever we ask for and not feel that God is too busy to answer our prayers. For the believers of God there is a such thing as miracles of any size. Or what we like to say we are blessed. I'm not asking for next weeks lotto numbers. I believe when you work for something long and hard to accomplish something you are rewarded. There is no reward without work. We all know that. And after the stress and strain of finishing nursing school which was where the real work was accomplished. You should not have be a mind reader of the people who create NCLEX :idea:

Mytonezucs · Aug 18, 2007

derngrad06 speaks the frustrations of all that fail NCLEX. He's fed up and has every right to be. I am in the same boat. Most of my schoolmates have been working over a year now while I stay behind in limbo.

The fact that you can't pick up a book on NCLEX and pass is just wrong. We've passed a nursing course for God's sake! NCLEX should be based on information as it was taught and in the same manner of testing.

Nursing school for me was not only a career choice but an investment of time and money. Now I am faced with the choice of continuing to deplete my savings or doing something else if I don't pass it the next time.

Most would regard my post as negative but we're taught as nurses to assess and present reality. Reality is NCLEX does not reflect the methods of teaching in nursing schools. It does not reflect the hard work and sacrifices made to complete the course.

And yes derngrad06, God has nothing to do with NCLEX.

But far worse is the fact that our nursing schools, the five or so review books I have, and the two review courses I took have nothing to do with NCLEX either.