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Small Survey
1.Type of nurse?
2. How many hours u work per week?
3. How many years of nursing?
4. What Shift: Day, Evening, nights, or weekend only?
5. City and State
6. Average 2 week gross pay
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Morganvibes, please run for congress!!!!! You are right, as women we too easily judge ourselves as guilty and skew our faces in distaste at the thought of deserving financial compensation for our hard work!!! We still drag around components of martyrdom which serve to perpetuate our devalued status. Lets look at other healthcare (and nonhealthcare too) professions -- how do salaries relate with gender?
Come on women, let's own our ability to intellectually and skillfully nurture and recognize it as a commodity worthy of respectable financial reward ---- physicians have demanded this for years. Is that because the world of physicians is dominated by males who have no problem accepting their worth or putting a monitary value on "helping people"?
You will find that taxes are a killer (obviously.) And, the more you work the more they take, so dont kill yourself doing 50 hours a week because you wont see most of the money from it. Overtime is taxed at a different tax rate, just like bonuses, so I find i would rather have some semblance of a normal life than make some chicken change killing myself.
One way to beat that is to put the extra money in a tax deferred retirement account. Of course, you still have to pay taxes once you withdraw the money in retirement but at least you can invest the tax money and make money on it for the next 20 years or so.
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Overtime is taxed at a different tax rate, just like bonuses, so I find i would rather have some semblance of a normal life than make some chicken change killing myself.
That is a common misconception. What you find as you earn more money is that your withholding for that paycheck is based on a full year's earnings at that rate. So if you earn an extra $500 in that two-week paycheck, payroll is going to base your withholding as if you were earning $13,000 more. You might see a disproportionate withholding, but if your income is otherwise stable, you get it back when you file your income tax return.
The other misconception is about the marginal tax rate. You have a basic tax rate, and then a marginal tax rate that covers the increase. The marginal tax rate is the highest amount you will pay, but it's only on the amount above the base. Once you cross an income threshold (which depends on your filing status), you pay a higher marginal rate. But if you are in the low end of a bracket, a moderate amount of overtime isn't going to affect your marginal rate.
For example, if you are single, the first $7550 of taxable income (after exemptions and deductions) is taxed at 10%, the next $23,100 is taxed at 15%, and the next $43,550 is taxed at 25%. That's a total of $74,200. So a nurse whose base income after deductions and exemptions is $50,000, can earn an additional $24,200 before any of that income gets taxed at the next higher rate, which is 28%.
What does hurt is as your income goes higher, you start to lose some of your deductions and tax breaks. That never used to be a problem for underpaid nurses, but now that some nurses are finally pulling down some decent salaries, they have to worry about such things.
I delegate to RNs all the time. Being their supervisor doesn't mean I have more responsibility and that they do more work. We each have unique responsibilities, and we all work. You said that LPNs have less responsibility and more work. And I still say bullpucky.I worked with an LPN as a new grad who taught me everything there was to know about med-surg. I've worked with LPNs in ICU who could do everything I could do except push IV meds. I've certainly worked with LPNs in long-term care who were completely in charge of their units. They didn't work any harder than I did, and I didn't work harder than they did. I was responsible for my work, and they were responsible for theirs. They work under their own license, just as the RNs who are not in charge work under their own licenses. Unless you are the director of nursing, legally delegating a task in accordance with the nurse practice act and facility policy does not make you responsible for another licensed nurse's work.
Oh, and while you might 'lose' your license for something, I hope you never 'loose' it. Just one of my pets named Peeve.
Kudos to you!!! I actually have a friend who is an LPN (30 yrs exp)..she does home care on my daughter who is medically fragile and let me tell you from first hand observation she could run circles around any RN anywhere....it just amazes me! She does everything (except iv meds) and she has the most awesome critical thinking skills......where some of the RN's in my house have literally racked their brains trying to figure out something & here she comes and ...bam! figured out! She blows doors on nursing care on most every nurse I have ever observed whether here at home or when my daughter gets hospitalized ( & that's in ICU also)
So it does bug me as well when anyone looks upon an LPN as less important or not as good as an RN simply because they are "ONLY" an LPN:angryfire
hi chioma829. i graduated march 2005(lpn) and i wanted to know the same thing. so please don't feel bad @ wanting to know these things. contrary to "hoiler than thou" beliefs, wanting to know what jobs/positions pay better or worse does not mean that a person is necessarily "just in it 4 the money". i also think that if u think the question is too personal-don't respond. we, as nurses, put up with enough nasty attitudes on the job-can't we try to be nice and let simple, yet imperfect, questions stay simple?
1. lpn/lvn
2. 36
3. almost 1.5
4. weekends only
5. memphis, tennessee
6. $1,320.00
good luck!!!!
1. LVN/Inpatient nurse case manager
2. 40 hrs/week-salaried
3. 20 years as a LVN/LPN, and 1 year in the managed care industry/nurse case manager.
4. Monday-Friday, no weekends/no on call
5. Los Angeles, California
6. $ 2,500.00 bi-weekly before taxes, $ 1770.00 bi-weekly after taxes.
$ 65K/year base salary, benefit package extra.
morganvibes
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I am taking my pre req's right now (3 left) and hope to atend nursing school next fall.
I have always been one to do a lot of research and am amazed at all I have discovered about the nursing proffession. This is my take on the arguments going on in this thread:
I think it is awesome and admirable that this mostly female dominated profession has people in it that care immensely about their fellow human beings and many would probably continue to do this job for a low salary because it is their "calling". I would not knock on any of you for one minute! BUT, that should totally not be what we are arguing about.
The HMO corporations and big Hospitals are USING great people like you to keep from having to pay what you and other nurses DESERVE to make. The big corporations just love it that all these nurses are infighting about how they wear it as a badge of honor to get low pay!!! What employer could ask for more!?? You need to reserve your anger for THEM and not your fellow nuses, then maybe there would be some changes made that would benefit nurses and patients alike.
If this was a male dominated profession, you better believe that salary talk would be on the table all the time, and not a big secret. No one would be letting the big bosses get away with this stuff.
The ONLY reason they can get away with it, is because women are so used to getting less and also because yes, women ARE more commpassionate and caring in general. We feel bad to get paid to do something we consider our "role" especially if it comes to us naturally. But let's not let them take advantage of our good natures when it is not neccessary!
These Hospital corporations have PLENTY of money to pay you what you are worth and to have lower patient to nurse ratios.
If nurses would stick together than they would have better conditions for themselves but just as important, much better conditions for the PATIENTS!
It would be good for everyone who is ultimately concerned about respect for self, and better patient care.
there's my speech.
thanks and I love this forum.
Also, as far as doing something else to easily make money:
I don't know another profession whereby if you go to school for basically 3 years, you are pretty well guaranteed a job right after graduation making $50,000 to start. (Even though for the amount of schooling, responsibility for LIVES, and hard work, that is still NOT adequate compared to MALE dominated preofessions).
Like someone had previously stated, if you are ONLY in it for the money, then perhaps you might not stay, but respecting yourself and what you are worth is a VALUE that I believe would translate into how you care for and thus VALUE other people.