What do you think about with current News and Opinions?

Guests · Feb 20, 2022

2 hours ago, Beerman said:

Actually, the money was to keep child care providers open. So, by your logic, it was $2300 per child to a provider (actually quite a bit more...you used $30 billion in your calculation. Should have been $39B). So, a provider with 10 kids would have received $23,000.

The half a billion to private jet companies pales in comparison to $39 billion, and has nothing to do with money that goes to child care.

And, if you weren't so concerned about hating the rich, you might realize that money was more helpful to the employees of those companies than their rich customers, as they kept their jobs.

Do you think that the foundation of this discussion boils down to either loving or hating the rich?

Beerman, BSN · Feb 20, 2022

10 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Do you think that the foundation of this discussion boils down to either loving or hating the rich?

No

Guests · Feb 20, 2022

3 minutes ago, Beerman said:

No

Your previous comment seems out of place, then.

Beerman, BSN · Feb 20, 2022

12 minutes ago, nursej22 said:

I'm not sure why you think I hate the rich, but I do think they should pay more in taxes.

Do you have any data about how many private jet company employees were helped?

Hate might be the wrong word. But, liberals generally think the wealthy don't deserve what they have, and they need to pay "their fair share", and that would alleviate all our problems.

No, I don't know how many employees.

Beerman, BSN · Feb 20, 2022

5 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Your previous comment seems out of place, then.

I appreciate you asking the question, and then offering your feedback.

Tweety, BSN, RN · Feb 21, 2022

6 hours ago, Beerman said:

Would you be so kind as to provide a source for this?

I'm not sure why you would ask for a source, it's been widely known that retail has been struggling since the advent of internet shopping and the rise of Amazon.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/18/business/retail-stores-coronavirus-macys-nordstrom/index.html

Tweety, BSN, RN · Feb 21, 2022

3 hours ago, Beerman said:

Hate might be the wrong word. But, liberals generally think the wealthy don't deserve what they have, and they need to pay "their fair share", and that would alleviate all our problems.

I think that is a major difference in the conservative vs. liberal mindset. "Paying their fair share and more than the rest of us" is a liberal idea but with conservatives equates with taking/stealing what they've rightly earned, and they are the job creators.

We've had many discussions about this over the years, especially during the Bush tax cuts, and Trump's tax cuts. So I won't go into my two cents in taxing more of the 1% that hold $27 trillion, especially now with such big profits and raising prices under the guise of inflation. ( https://www.vox.com/2022/2/20/22943257/inflation-corporations-price-hikes-consumer-price-index)

But I will say you're exaggerating when we think getting more taxation will solve all of our problems.

I even tried to Google that and didn't come up with anyone saying this. It is a cause we're very much in favor of.

Beerman, BSN · Feb 21, 2022

22 minutes ago, Tweety said:

I'm not sure why you would ask for a source, it's been widely known that retail has been struggling since the advent of internet shopping and the rise of Amazon.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/18/business/retail-stores-coronavirus-macys-nordstrom/index.html

I wasn't very clear. This is the part of the post I am questioning:

"But the fact remains that billionaires and millionaires snared about 80% of government handouts in Covid relief. "

Beerman, BSN · Feb 21, 2022

15 minutes ago, Tweety said:

But I will say you're exaggerating when we think getting more taxation will solve all of our problems.

I even tried to Google that and didn't come up with anyone saying this. It is a cause we're very much in favor of

No, I doubt that anyone has said it in those words. But it seems that with most social problems that are discussed, such as the discussion on the last page or two about chiod poverty, the liberal answer is always that we need to throw more money at it. So, from that, we need more money and based on past liberal rhetoric, it can be inferred we need to further tax the rich.

Tweety, BSN, RN · Feb 21, 2022

5 minutes ago, Beerman said:

I wasn't very clear. This is the part of the post I am questioning:

"But the fact remains that billionaires and millionaires snared about 80% of government handouts in Covid relief. "

Gotcha. I'd like to see those stats too. Although I do remember some criticism on the rich getting relief. But I think as large employers it would look like some of them would get more. Makes sense to me.

But I do remember some concerns of inequity.

https://sanantonioreport.org/how-big-corporations-scored-coronavirus-relief-and-small-businesses-lost-out/

https://time.com/5845116/coronavirus-bailout-rich-richer/

Tweety, BSN, RN · Feb 21, 2022

4 minutes ago, Beerman said:

No, I doubt that anyone has said it in those words. But it seems that with most social problems that are discussed, such as the discussion on the last page or two about chiod poverty, the liberal answer is always that we need to throw more money at it. So, from that, we need more money and based on past liberal rhetoric, it can be inferred we need to further tax the rich.

Well, some of our pressing problems do require cash and I don't think it's rhetoric to consider taxing the wealthy to pay for it. I also think we should look for alternatives and cut some fat...for example the military pig.

Guests · Feb 21, 2022

3 hours ago, Beerman said:

Hate might be the wrong word. But, liberals generally think the wealthy don't deserve what they have, and they need to pay "their fair share", and that would alleviate all our problems.

No, I don't know how many employees.

Is that how right wing commentators generalize democratic economic policy?