I have a health class where we just took a test about drugs. And more than half of the class failed. Like with 27 percent to 60 percent. I personally got a 65. But the thing is, I genuinely did not feel prepared for this test because all the teacher did was give us 6 pages of notes that we'll have to copy down each day and talk when we're copying down, so none of us can possibly hear him and jot down the note at the same time. And then, if we get distracted for a little bit, he'll threaten us with words like, "Well, I guess you guys aren't going to copy down this whole page of notes and possibly fail your test". And I really did study for the test, I wrote rewrote down almost 20 pages of notes over and over again without a study guide or anything to determine if I was studying the things I should be. Since the teacher expects us all to memorize everything he taught within 2 months.
So currently, I feel frustrated because this 65 is really not something I deserve or something anyone in my class deserves because I believe that it's not our fault that we don't even know what to study for and end up getting questions about the very little details that the teacher told us that we don't have to copy.
Damn, I ranted a lot. please keep in mind that it's the teacher's second year of teaching health.
You understand that expectation exists 10000000% beacuse the STUDENTS refuse to hold their instructors to a higher standard, right?
You know what, I fix computers, I'm A+ certified. Next time you have a problem with your computer, give me $500 and I'll tell you to google how to fix your problem. Sounds stupid right? That's exactly what we're letting our college professors do to us.
Exactly how many hours do you want to spend per week in each class? For an instructor to teach you everything you need to know, you’d probably be in a single 4 credit class for over 20 hours a week. Imagine how much college would cost then.
I feel kind of bad and guilty since I'm posting as a high school student, wanting to get adult help...
Honey, you don't need to feel bad but you should have been honest from the beginning. We adjust our answers and sometimes the way we present them when we know we are dealing with a kid. We DO want to help you but we need to know the real situation to be able to do it. Can you explain to us this class you are in? Is it part of a nurse assistant program (some highschools have them)?
Instructors responsibility is to teach the students in the best way possible, this includes using all available resources. Instructors are not meant to just spit out information to students and only test on that. Instructors also want to give students different ways to learn the information. Only testing on lecture materials really does a disservice to everyone.
I would much rather have an overview lecture where an instructor highlights the main points of the topic at hand and then give me other materials or videos that s/he selected to best illustrate their point.
And relying on self study does even more of a disservice to the students. Think about it like this, what if you completely misunderstood infection prevention and you were responsible to learn it completely independently. Now you're leaning about TB and you're applying your misunderstood infection knowledge into how you'd care for this patient. See where that can be an issue?
This isn't just about testing. It's about the reality that your instructors are responsible for making sure that they present correct information to the students. I'm not denying that it's my responsibility to learn, but it's 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000% my instructor's responsibility to teach. And if they don't have time to fit everything they need to teach into the class, then they need to work on that.
Just because this is college, it doesn't excuse the teachers from doing their jobs. This isn't a huge university where they're primarily there for research. This is nursing school, an applied science.
And you missed the point on getting your computer fixed. I'm paying that school to teach me. Now, if I don't learn it, I agree, that's my fault. But for the thousands of dollars that I'm spending, I expect my teachers to actually teach the material. So if you were paying me to fix your computer, would you expect me to actually fix it for you, or give you instructions on how to google your problem? We completely change the rules when it comes to college professors. They're a profession that's not expected to actually do their job at all. A computer can test me and grade me.
Are your teachers not teaching you? Mine taught me. They just didn’t teach me every little thing. Does that seem practical? How many hours in class would that take?
You should be able to go home, read your textbooks, watch YouTube, and come up with questions that fill the gaps in what you understand. I certainly didnt learn biochem just based on what I watched in class. I studied that class for at least 4 hours a day alone.
Are your teachers not teaching you? Mine taught me. They just didn’t teach me every little thing. Does that seem practical? How many hours in class would that take?
You should be able to go home, read your textbooks, watch YouTube, and come up with questions that fill the gaps in what you understand. I certainly didnt learn biochem just based on what I watched in class. I studied that class for at least 4 hours a day alone.
To teach everything that has to be covered on that particular topic, any GOOD teacher will fit it into their class. Not wasting time telling a 15 minute story to make the point of "make sure the O2 is turned on" does a lot when it comes to having enough time to teach everything that needs to be taught. Why can some teachers do it but others cant?
That’s unrealistic. The first time a doctor chews your *** for something you had no clue about are you going to say “well they didn’t teach us that in nursing school?”
That being said, yes some teachers are better lecturers than others and my complaint is nursing instructors treat you like a child. Mandatory attendance is stupid and most nursing schools have it. At least in most medical schools attendance isn’t mandatory so you can skip and actually get some good studying in.
I skipped in nursing school because a couple lecturers were incompetent and shouldn’t have even been nurses imo. They would call me and question me. Look lady, I’m making all A’s in your joke *** classes. Don’t you worry about where I am until I’m not scoring highly.
That’s unrealistic. The first time a doctor chews your *** for something you had no clue about are you going to say “well they didn’t teach us that in nursing school?”
No, I'm not, because I learned it on my own. But that doesn't change the fact that teachers are employed by the college, that I'm paying money to go to, to teach.
Why are you so OK with paying thousands of dollars for in person classes, where the instructor doesn't teach you? Wouldn't it make more sense to just be a hybrid class, and an online, self taught class with in person labs at the school? I'd be perfectly fine in that situation. My issue is that I'm paying to be taught and the teachers just aren't even trying to teach it. If I have to teach myself the majority of the work, then refund me the extra fees that I had to pay for in-person classes and we'll be OK.
Like I said, they did teach me. Nursing is pretty simple education wise. The only difficult part is “real world nursing” where the answer isn’t black and white and everything they teach you in school goes out the window.
I worked a full time job when I was in nursing school and my friend got a BSN in nursing AND a degree in biochem concurrently.
Nursing education isn’t difficult. The physical work and mental strain of nursing can be hard, but school is a joke. You never go in depth on anything. It’s like the bare minimum you need to know.
my complaint is nursing instructors treat you like a child. Mandatory attendance is stupid and most nursing schools have it. At least in most medical schools attendance isn’t mandatory so you can skip and actually get some good studying in.
Nursing schools have become the flagship program at a lot of colleges. It's about image. If people don't have to show up for class, more will fail and more will not get licensed. Same reason so many require an exit exam, only the people likely to pass the NCLEX get to take it.
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Exactly how many hours do you want to spend per week in each class? For an instructor to teach you everything you need to know, you’d probably be in a single 4 credit class for over 20 hours a week. Imagine how much college would cost then.