Published Jan 21, 2010
kat252
6 Posts
I live in New York and attended a CUNY College where I failed my 3rd semester of nursing and was not able to continue in the nursing program. I applied to Long Island University because I thought since it was a private school I could continue my nursing studies there, but was denied entrance into the nursing program because I failed the a nursing class in the CUNY College. Can someone help me with information on where I can continue my nursing studies? I am currently an LPN but dream of becoming an RN.
Emergency RN
544 Posts
Can we get some clarification please? Did you fail in the third semester of clinicals or was it the third semester of pre-nursing prerequisites in a 4 year cuny school for the BSN; or was it a 2 year cuny school for the ADN?
OncallRN
41 Posts
I think you are going to have to put forth a convincing argument for why you won't fail agian to any school.
you need to opennly address why you failed and show what measure you have or will take to make sure that it doesn't happen again.
I failed 3rd semester nursing class, 1st time received grade NC (no grade), repeated class and only made grade C where I was not eligible to continue to next semester.
So is this a 2 year or 4 year program? Generally, the No Credit (NC) grades are automatically considered as failing (F). But since they've already let you take it over, and you got a grade C, which is technically minimum passing, then I don't see why they won't let you continue.
I guess because I bearly passed with C after repeating class. I was told by LIU that they could not accept me in the program for the same reason, the grade NC and after repeating I received grade C. What are my options, are there any other schools I can apply to?
Alright, since you tried for LIU (which is a 4year school), then I'm assuming that you failed your third semester of Clinicals in a BSN program. That said, it's very hard to find another program to accept you because once you're in the clinicals, they follow a pretty rigid time schedule. If another school accepted you, they may require you to complete the entire upper division sequence at their institution. That is, you may have to do your clinicals all over again.
And yes, I've heard some people say that after one gets a NC score, the follow up or repeat scores have gotta be convincingly good, or else they can ask you to leave. I think the rationale is that if one gets stuck on the 3rd clinical, then there is little likelihood that one can pass the 4th, which is even more challenging.
That's a real tough break, and you certainly have my sympathy. Maybe you can try getting the RN at an ADN school instead. I know that that seems a step back, but at least you'll be on the road again toward the RN.
At any rate, I wish you luck.
youknowho
470 Posts
I would also look at WHY you are failing. Do you not have time to study/prepare? Do you not understand the material? Is there a learning disability hindering you? Are you lazy? Stop for a moment and really look at the situation.
DoGoodThenGo
4,133 Posts
Though it was the 1980's, one also attended a CUNY nursing program (transferred out to a different major), so can give some limited advice.
You cannot apply to another CUNY program because it is all one system and they will "know" your past, even if you try to attend as a "new" freshmen student.
As you have already found out, applying to priviate or any other nursing program is going to be difficult to almost nil chances of getting in and "finishing" your nursing education. Cannot say one has ever heard of a nursing program that allows students to enter at nearly the end of a program, to complete, especially those whom have been removed from another program for cause.
Basically each nursing program often has their own schedule and or method (if that is the proper word), for teaching their students, and to allow you to graduate from their program, thus certify you are able to take the boards would mean sitting down and matching your previous course work in nursing, against their's. This is almost never done for undergraduate students.
Sadly, if you really wish to become an RN you are going to probably have to start over at another school, right from square one. In theory when applying to any nursing program/college, and asked to forward college transcripts for *ALL* previous work taken, one could omit the CUNY college, but that is dishonest and could have serious consequences. Being as that may, it has been done.
Personally, before resorting to the above, I'd try a few more local schools like Long Island College Hospital, Beth Israel, Mount Saint Vincent's, or either of the former St. Vincent's schools of nursing in Queens or Staten Island (now St. Pauls). Contact each school and request a face to face meeting (far better to make one's case in person), and ask about chances of admission if you apply as rank new nursing student.
CUNY nursing programs, like many others have very strict rules regarding failing and or repeating of nursing or core courses (my old school allowed only two, one nursing and one core, could be repeated, but that was then, think they have tightened things up since then). Am assuming you did the normal reaction upon dissmissal from the program; that is cry, beg, plead, appeal, offer to surrender your first born (joke), to seek reinstatement.
In the meantime, don't leave college all together. I would continue taking other nursing related, elective or core classes (if possible) that will be required in the future. You never know.
Finally, if by the grace of God you manage to get into another nursing program, consider it just that. Learn from your previous experience and even if it means loosing everything near and dear, do not fail again. There are few second chances in this world, and even fewer third.
Best of luck, and keep your chin up!
DGTG
oooitzkevin
13 Posts
You can try St Paul's School of Nursing fomerly St Vincent's School of Nursing. http://www.stpaulsschoolofnursing.com/ GOOD LUCK!
RedXIII_
78 Posts
I'd look for an ADN school. From there you can work as an RN and you can branch off to a BSN from there. That's what I'm doing.
caliotter3
38,333 Posts
If I were you I would look into Excelsior College, http://www.excelsior.edu, since you are an LPN and have completed 50% of your program. But look into the other schools first and remember that EC requires that you be motivated to do it on your own. It is not the easy answer, but an option that is out there.