What Is the Problem With These Nurses?

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I've always thought the "nurses eating their young" phenomenon was somewhat of a misnomer, since we're not their children and I know students can impose a lot of burdens on nurses. But, when you're pretty functional and helping out with most of the work, and some nurses still beat you down to a pulp, I just don't get it.

What's the point of being so mean? I'm running my butt off all day, I'm giving all of the meds, doing all of the charting, aide work, etc. for most of the patients. Yet, no matter how hard I work, there's still a constant barrage of criticism ...

Of course, I make mistakes and I definitely need to improve in a lot of areas. No question about it. Nevertheless, I am not a total novice and, despite my shortcomings, I do know I'm making their day a hellava lot easier.

But ... I'm only human, and I do tend to make even more mistakes when I know I'm going to get slammed no matter what I do. After awhile, no matter how tough you are, it's difficult to concentrate and do everything the nurse wants when you know she's hostile and looking for any opportunity to jump on your case ... even when you do things right.

I actually don't need nor do I expect praise or reassurance but, like a lot of people, I don't tend do well when I getting slammed all the time either.

I can't wait to get out of there and let them get back to doing all the work. Thankfully, my days of slave labor will soon be over. I hope they got their jollies because if this is how they make themselves feel better or whatever it is ... good riddance.

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I guess some people are just plain mean and hatefull no matter what, but it seems that nursing is the last place we need to have these sort of meanies.:icon_sad:

Specializes in ED, ICU, PACU.
i've always thought the "nurses eating their young" phenomenon was somewhat of a misnomer, since we're not their children and i know students can impose a lot of burdens on nurses. but, when you're pretty functional and helping out with most of the work, and some nurses still beat you down to a pulp, i just don't get it.

what's the point of being so mean? i'm running my butt off all day, i'm giving all of the meds, doing all of the charting, aide work, etc. for most of the patients. yet, no matter how hard i work, there's still a constant barrage of criticism ...

of course, i make mistakes and i definitely need to improve in a lot of areas. no question about it. nevertheless, i am not a total novice and, despite my shortcomings, i do know i'm making their day a hellava lot easier.

but ... i'm only human, and i do tend to make even more mistakes when i know i'm going to get slammed no matter what i do. after awhile, no matter how tough you are, it's difficult to concentrate and do everything the nurse wants when you know she's hostile and looking for any opportunity to jump on your case ... even when you do things right.

i actually don't need nor do i expect praise or reassurance but, like a lot of people, i don't tend do well when i getting slammed all the time either.

i can't wait to get out of there and let them get back to doing all the work. thankfully, my days of slave labor will soon be over. i hope they got their jollies because if this is how they make themselves feel better or whatever it is ... good riddance.

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i'm so sorry for what you are going through :icon_hug: . i've been through this and just got fed up last week-out of frustration (almost ready to quit on the spot) blurted out something like "...well i guess we're just going to have to face the fact that i'm just incompetent at nursing...i can never see myself becoming as perfect as all of you...i think i'll start investigating another career...maybe i can put my 4.0 biology degree to good use, chuck the nursing degree, and become a doctor...what do you think...?" it sure shut them up and i haven't heard one critism in a whole week. maybe your answer is to try your own form of the passive-aggresive thing. good luck

i've been through this and just got fed up last week-out of frustration (almost ready to quit on the spot) blurted out something like "...well i guess we're just going to have to face the fact that i'm just incompetent at nursing...i can never see myself becoming as perfect as all of you...

speaking of perfection ...

the funny thing is, my preceptor has made some mistakes herself. she jumped on me for not giving patients meds before dialysis which, would have gotten dialyzed out. when i showed the mar to the dialysis nurse, she agree with me that the meds should have been held.

and, when i reported one patient's left sided chest pain which was radiating to the back ... i was told not to be concerned since the heart is on the right side, and that it was just gas pain.

ok ... i didn't know that human anatomy had changed :uhoh3:

make no mistake ... i've done some really stupid things. but no one is perfect, including her.

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An MI can manifest in a multitide of ways anyways, even with no pain.

An MI can manifest in a multitide of ways anyways, even with no pain.

Yes, I know. And yes, it can even radiate to the right side. And, yes it can just be gas pain.

BUT ... she was also SOB, respirations were 30 and above with constant dyspnea. She did not look good. And left sided CP with pain radiating to the back is a classic sign ... at least that's what they taught me in school.

I personally wanted to order a stat EKG to rule it out but ... what do I know. The heart, afterall, is on the right side ...:no:

Sorry but ... I thought that's the kind of stuff we're supposed to be looking out for. I guess we're supposed to wait until they code.

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Lizz,

Didn't you know you were 'spose to be perfect???

You're supposed to know to smack that do-hicky just so on the top!

You're 'sposed to know to jiggle the button on that particular IV pump!

How could you forget a Fonzi style "AYE" when you hit the PYXIS machine???

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I sympathize with someone not into precepting though. I totally don't enjoy it, it disrupts my flow. I also don't like checking other people's charting. I'm too easygoing to be a good preceptor.

I sympathize with someone not into precepting though. I totally don't enjoy it, it disrupts my flow. I also don't like checking other people's charting. I'm too easygoing to be a good preceptor.

Garden Dove, I as a student can totally understand not wanting to precept or have a student tagging along all the time. I can see how it would slow you down and disrupt your flow of thinking and activities. Having said that, there is no excuse for nurses being testy with the students who are only doing what the nurse his/herself did years ago to get where they are. As students or new grads we need to try to be as self-sufficient as possible and be be considerate of the staff that has to help train us often for little to no extra money. In turn though, it would be nice to be treated with professionalism. Most nurses and staff that I have come in contact with so far are polite and professional, some are even friendly and eager to teach. Those few though...

If they don't want to precept ... don't do it. These nurses aren't forced to precept, it's voluntary. But my program gives them CE hours for it, which is why they do it.

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Another question from a student: How are preceptors chosen?

It seems to me that a hospital that's truly interested in retaining good people would make only its very best nurses preceptors -- and of course offer a pay premium for doing it. That way students wouldn't find themselves working with someone who's been "saddled" with the job and resents it.

Who becomes a preceptor, and what (if any, besides personal satisfaction) are the rewards?

P.S. Once again, I find myself nodding at Ingelein's words. I think there's a lot to the notion that hospitals allow bullying and hostility to persist because employees who are divided are conquered. They're too distracted by their own problems to focus on demanding better working conditions.

Who becomes a preceptor, and what (if any, besides personal satisfaction) are the rewards?

As I previously mentioned ... they get CE hours for it, at least in my program.

And I'm perfectly willing to acknowledge that a lot of this could be my fault. I could just be rubbing her the wrong way and may have inadvertently done something that really ticked her off. Maybe this preceptor would have been happier and much better with a different student.

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Thank you. I did note your earlier post regarding continuing ed credits. I was curious to see if other nurses might describe different scenarios.

Frankly, it sounds as if there's no standard for becoming a preceptor in the situation that you describe.

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