Published Apr 11, 2007
Love Coronado
28 Posts
We just finished up the lab test for muscles, and had to say good bye to our lab cat Mr. Biggelsworth (yes we named him). I had no problem with the dissection. I am also taking general Bio, and have already dissected a fetal pig. Still no biggie. BUT I looked ahead in our lab book, and our next lab is dissecting a Live Frog!! We have to see it's heart beating and then take the heart out. Now, I think I didn't have any problem with the other stuff because it was already dead. We still have to dissect a brain and something else, but I am feeling bad for the living, breathing, frog. Anyone else feel this way? I have always thought I was tough, but I feel bad for a little hopping frog. Just Wondering.
Ribbit!
CiCigirl
64 Posts
inventory of animals i've dissected:
earthworm
cricket
chicken fetus (injected alcohol into this one for a lab experiment)
cat
...and pithed (scrambled the brains but kept it alive) a frog.
(i was a biology major so all these dissections were legitimate. )
so i know what you're feeling. don't worry, it'll pass. just think of all the good you'll do for people with your education.
p.s. we pithed the frog to learn about it's neurophysiology and cardiovascular system.
best wishes!!
GeneralJinjur
376 Posts
Cow eye, sheep brain, fetal pig, sheep heart, pig uterus (complete with a whole passel of teeny piglets) and a frog in junior high. Our school also has cadavers, but students don't dissect. We also had a CD with experiments on it and the beating frog heart was one I watched. It is a neat experiment.
I would also feel weird about sacrificing a frog. I took A&P I in 1994 and didn't take the second semester because I felt guilty about using up a fetal pig when I was an English major.
felt guilty about using up a fetal pig when i was an english major.
i understand if you felt guilty about this b/c you were an english major.
but as for me, i looooove bacon. so it would be sort of hypocritical of me to feel guilty about dissecting a pig. i think i might feel guilty about it at first, like i said above, but i'd get over it. after all, a fetal pig's life doesn't have any more value than an adult pig's life, right?
and the sacrifice of this fetal pig's life would help me get the education i needed to help countless people. so i could live with it.
I like pork chops, but a fetal pig never even got the chance to become pork, so I can work up guilt over one. :)
You are right. This is an important education. And working on 4 cadavers over two semesters has shown me what kinds of internal differences there are between individuals. If I were a member of the science club, I could come watch when the instructors open up the cadavers. Sadly, I haven't had time to join. I'm really tempted to do all sorts of extracurricular activities for a year before submitting my graduation papers, LOL.
i like pork chops, but a fetal pig never even got the chance to become pork, so i can work up guilt over one. :) you are right. this is an important education. and working on 4 cadavers over two semesters has shown me what kinds of internal differences there are between individuals. if i were a member of the science club, i could come watch when the instructors open up the cadavers. sadly, i haven't had time to join. i'm really tempted to do all sorts of extracurricular activities for a year before submitting my graduation papers, lol.
you are right. this is an important education. and working on 4 cadavers over two semesters has shown me what kinds of internal differences there are between individuals. if i were a member of the science club, i could come watch when the instructors open up the cadavers. sadly, i haven't had time to join. i'm really tempted to do all sorts of extracurricular activities for a year before submitting my graduation papers, lol.
seriously (not trying to be a butt or anything), but guilt over a fetal pig, yet no mention of guilt over a cadaver?
reallly???
donsterRN, ASN, BSN
2,558 Posts
A cat (Bill)
A sheep heart
A sheep brain
A cow eye
A frog (HS biology)
seriously (not trying to be a butt or anything), but guilt over a fetal pig, yet no mention of guilt over a cadaver?reallly???
nope, no guilt. the cadaver had a long, full life and the choice to be used for science. the fetal pig had neither. at least my pork chops have had a chance to savor the sunlight and wallow in the mud.
no problem. different strokes for different folks, i guess.
i would have more of a moral dilemma of dissecting a person (whose family probably couldn't pay for a proper funeral and therefore donated their body to medical science), regardless of the age, than dissecting an animal.
(i know that all cadavers are not people whose family couldn't pay for a proper funeral, but a significant portion of them are.)
i live in the washington dc area and i see all kinds of suburan do-gooders come from all over the country to march on the mall or in front of the white house several times a year to save the whales, seals, or whatever. and i wonder how much these same people donate to their local homeless shelter, meals-on-wheels or domestic abuse shelter on a regular basis.
i think it has become much more fashionable to want to save something that is furry, cuddly, or given a talking voice in the latest blockbuster movie than to want to save a person.
ally21
92 Posts
I think it'd be so interesting to be able to dissect a human cadaver except I just saw the movie Unrest (horror movie about a gross anatomy class) which creeps me out. My A&PII class has us dissecting cats right now. When I was in high school we dissected the usual things such as worms, sheep lung, shark, cat, and a frog.
your scenario never crossed my mind. ours were all well fed and elderly. we were told that the family has to give consent to allow us to use them as cadavers and that afterward the bodies are cremated. the med students have an annual memorial for the people who so kindly shared their bodies. it all seemed very dignified.
tabswifeRN
118 Posts
fetal pig
sheep eyeball
sheep brain
cow heart
frog (jr high)
earthworm(jr high)
wasn't to bad I rather enjoyed it