I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news. I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.
According to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.
Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.
The arrested the guy the next day.
What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there.
I can't get past "comitties" in the post you are answering here.
Really? You can't get past a typo? It seems you cannot get past the content of the post. It was very long and all you diverted to is a typo? Have anything to say about the content? Or are you here to spell check and grammar police?
agree. Even as a former leader this should not be the kind of behavior you want the next gen to follow. He's not young, he knows better. He knows how impressionable, naive, and green people can be. It's like that movie 28 days later, a lot of people are now infected with rage, and they don't even know it.
Even if only one person shows up on his behalf, I'm still praying for peace, not one life should be lost because someone may or may not have to go to court. Come on now.
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At least 25 Americans were killed during protests and political unrest in 2020
agree. Even as a former leader this should not be the kind of behavior you want the next gen to follow. He's not young, he knows better. He knows how impressionable, naive, and green people can be. It's like that movie 28 days later, a lot of people are now infected with rage, and they don't even know it.
Even if only one person shows up on his behalf, I'm still praying for peace, not one life should be lost because someone may or may not have to go to court. Come on now.
I can't get over how you start a sentence with " agree. I can't......" Then comment on a spelling error.
How dare McCarthy do exactly what the democrats have been doing for years!! How dare he investigate possible political persecution in a department of justice. Or a political establishment?
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Roitrn said:
Really? You can't get past a typo? It seems you cannot get past the content of the post. It was very long and all you diverted to is a typo? Have anything to say about the content? Or are you here to spell check and grammar police?
And this remark is evidence of your purpose here? Pot, meet kettle...
Meanwhile, Republicans seem uninterested in holding Trump accountable for his behavior. That makes their talk about law and order or personal responsibility little more than propaganda. At the same time, House Republicans are going to use the federal government to try to chill investigations or indictments of Trump... isn't that an example of "weaponization of government"? It's almost like House Republicans think that if they accuse democrats of the things they are doing no one will figure it out. Well, maybe no one in that right wing echo chamber will figure it out... these threads seem to support that thought.
Perfect. If he committed any crimes, then charge him. Thus far, no charges. Pretty strange for "the most corrupt president in history"???
You're right. If any person who committed a crime should be investigated. Might not be good however for Biden and his family.
Too bad the popular vote doesn't matter. Perhaps you can lobby for that election establishment when you lobby for free speech and thought control for certain people you don't agree with.
Embarrassing? Please! Anything that far left demagogues feel is "negative" about Trump titillates them.
Except Hillary Clinton or illegal aliens. They are above the law.
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Roitrn said:
Then charge him!! Oh wait.......
Until he is charged, this ridiculous argument is moot.
Ypu may not understand the 1st admendment. Someone could talk about a fire in their back yard or a fire in their home to their friend before the movie starts. Someone behind them overhears the conversation, thinks he heard that there is a fire in the theater, screams it and several people are injured. Is the man having a conversation violating the the first amendment? So no body is allowed to talk abput fire in a theater? Lest someone misinterpreted it? Get out. Talk about tolitarian!
So if someone on this forum decides that his neighbor, a Trump supporters is planning to "overthrow the US government" and decided to harm his neighbor, shall all of you be guilty of a crime ? After all its repeated on this site like a fundamental cult over and over. Even suggestions like "this is a movement" and suggesting the Republican party is set to overthrow our democracy and wants a tolitarian regime. Liking the conservative party to dmfacist and Nazis?
Are you responsible for the actions of whomever reads your posts and engages in a crime?
Be careful what you wish for.. And just remember, right now, the constitution applies to both Republicans and democrats.
That was a wickedly weird and wordy attempt to defend Trump's tendency to use inflammatory and divisive language to manipulate his cult. We've observed the violent tendencies of Trump's speeches to angry rally goers since 2016. Trump used to encourage his fans to physically abuse those who booed him, he said he would pay their legal fees if they got arrested, remember? He encouraged police to be physically rough with the public. Trump's rhetoric involving violence only seems mysterious to people who rarely venture outside of right wing media to inform themselves.
It's appropriate to identify fascist tendencies in American conservatism aas right wing extremism and fascism are on the rise across the globe. The evidence supports the comparison. Unfortunately, some Trump supporters on this platform don't even know what fascism means or how it is expressed in politics or governance. Right wing media prefers that relative ignorance, inflamed interest makes them money... not truthful news. The Dominion lawsuit evidence demonstrates that reality pretty clearly for anyone willing to read the deposition transcripts.
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MaybeeRN said:
Except Hillary Clinton or illegal aliens. They are above the law.
Sure, sure... don't you wonder why Trump didn't investigate and jail Hillary Clinton for those crimes that Trump insisted would LOCK HER UP? It's almost like that was nothing more than right wing rhetoric that leans toward fascist authoritarian thinking... the notion that you'll jail your political opponent even though there's no actual crimes in evidence. Can you think of any modern examples of a right wing authoritarian jailing political opponents in the absence of actual crimes? The rhetoric is the same across the globe.
Meanwhile, "conservatives" seem very upset that an actual investigation may lead to actual indictments.
And this remark is evidence of your purpose here? Pot, meet kettle...
Meanwhile, Republicans seem uninterested in holding Trump accountable for his behavior. That makes their talk about law and order or personal responsibility little more than propaganda. At the same time, House Republicans are going to use the federal government to try to chill investigations or indictments of Trump... isn't that an example of "weaponization of government"? It's almost like House Republicans think that if they accuse democrats of the things they are doing no one will figure it out. Well, maybe no one in that right wing echo chamber will figure it out... these threads seem to support that thought.
How can they hold Trump responsible when there has been no charges? What are they supposed to do?
Law and order? What is it when you tell Americans citizens that someone is so incredibly guilty and corrupt, investigate, investigate and continue to investigate but not one charge? Law and order includes bringing charges after you investigate. It also includes being free from frivolous investigations. So the democrats are the ones lacking in "law and orderr".
House Republicans are going to investigate possible gross political corruption of a legal institution. If it's not there, then noting to worry about right? Or should they continue on and on without charges or accountability? If you can conclude that Trump is guilty without charge or trial why can't Republicans do the same? Looks like Republicans are being resposible in ensure our justice departments are in fact non political. How can that be bad?
Sure, sure... don't you wonder why Trump didn't investigate and jail Hillary Clinton for those crimes that Trump insisted would LOCK HER UP? It's almost like that was nothing more than right wing rhetoric that leans toward fascist authoritarian thinking... the notion that you'll jail your political opponent even though there's no actual crimes in evidence. Can you think of any modern examples of a right wing authoritarian jailing political opponents in the absence of actual crimes? The rhetoric is the same across the globe.
Meanwhile, "conservatives" seem very upset that an actual investigation may lead to actual indictments.
Hmmmm. Did he try and lock her up? Did he investigate her? NO. So your personal agitation that he might even just think that , or says something you feel sounds like that, does not suggest anything authoritarian at all.
How is "lock her up" any different then the repetitive allegations/ investigations without any due process of crimes committed by Trump? All allegation, endless investigations, with out fulfilling the burden of guilt? That sounds fascist and totalitarian.
Conservatives are upset that there are tactics being used, that have never been used before because, it will see a very ominous status quo that will in fact be threatening to our democracy. Political opponents instigating endless investigations and allegations against eachother? That does not disturb you at all?
That was a wickedly weird and wordy attempt to defend Trump's tendency to use inflammatory and divisive language to manipulate his cult. We've observed the violent tendencies of Trump's speeches to angry rally goers since 2016. Trump used to encourage his fans to physically abuse those who booed him, he said he would pay their legal fees if they got arrested, remember? He encouraged police to be physically rough with the public. Trump's rhetoric involving violence only seems mysterious to people who rarely venture outside of right wing media to inform themselves.
It's appropriate to identify fascist tendencies in American conservatism aas right wing extremism and fascism are on the rise across the globe. The evidence supports the comparison. Unfortunately, some Trump supporters on this platform don't even know what fascism means or how it is expressed in politics or governance. Right wing media prefers that relative ignorance, inflamed interest makes them money... not truthful news. The Dominion lawsuit evidence demonstrates that reality pretty clearly for anyone willing to read the deposition transcripts.
It is also appropriate to identify fascist tendencies and ideology of those who are not "right wing".
We already have discussed how you think that no one can ever be a fascist if they do not fit into your "right wing" category. Which is false.
A stickler for exact interpretation of words when you engage in made up words "MAGAphile? Yes I've been reading back. I'd imagine you can not define a woman and think that someone who isn't white can be a white supremist too? Yet you will demonstrate a strick adherence to definitions when it suites you.
I'm wondering. Do you get your media information from CNN videos?
Here's the thing. Anyone can interpret any transcripts to benefit their ideology. However this doesn't matter in a law case. A law case that hasn't even started.
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Roitrn said:
How can they hold Trump responsible when there has been no charges? What are they supposed to do?
Law and order? What is it when you tell Americans citizens that someone is so incredibly guilty and corrupt, investigate, investigate and continue to investigate but not one charge? Law and order includes bringing charges after you investigate. It also includes being free from frivolous investigations. So the democrats are the ones lacking in "law and orderr".
House Republicans are going to investigate possible gross political corruption of a legal institution. If it's not there, then noting to worry about right? Or should they continue on and on without charges or accountability? If you can conclude that Trump is guilty without charge or trial why can't Republicans do the same? Looks like Republicans are being resposible in ensure our justice departments are in fact non political. How can that be bad?
Your first remark suggests that you don't know how our American justice is supposed to work... you know, investigation and accumulation of evidence before chants of LOCK HER UP or indictments.
What makes these investigations frivolous? Aren't federal election finance laws important? They were for Michael Cohen. Isn't it important to investigate why the former president lied about his election loss and encouraged his inflamed mob to march on the Capitol to STOP THE STEAL? Were Trump's attempts to retain lost power through extra-constitutional means frivolous? Was Trump's phone call to Georgia officials frivolous, as he implored them to find enough votes to give him victory?
So far House Republicans are making statements about corruption of government institutions but they've provided no evidence to support their claims. That's the result of their current "investigations" into weaponization of government (their fixation on a laptop and Twitter) or border policy. Like Durham... they are going to spend tax payer dollars in a big way to try to find evidence that supports their claims and beliefs. Like Durham's investigation, these efforts will fail in embarrassing ways for congressional Republicans. Fortunately, the GOP players like Jim Jordan or MTG don't actually seem to experience shame or embarrassment so that won't be a deterrent for them.
What do you mean why can't Republicans do the same? Republicans claimed that Clinton should be locked up without even bothering to conduct a cursory investigation. They went right to LOCK HER UP. They said it and their cult members believed and repeated it even though there was no evidence ever presented of a crime behind their claims. Now Republicans are making claims about Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, election security, border policy that they can't support with actual evidence or facts or data. So... yeah Republicans are experience and practiced at making wild claims and accusations in the absence of evidence. Maybe you forgot about Benghazi or maybe you don't see any similarity in the processes congressional Republicans use to weaponize government function then and now.
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Roitrn said:
Hmmmm. Did he try and lock her up? Did he investigate her? NO. So your personal agitation that he might even just think that , or says something you feel sounds like that, does not suggest anything authoritarian at all.
How is "lock her up" any different then the repetitive allegations/ investigations without any due process of crimes committed by Trump? All allegation, endless investigations, with out fulfilling the burden of guilt? That sounds fascist and totalitarian.
Conservatives are upset that there are tactics being used, that have never been used before because, it will see a very ominous status quo that will in fact be threatening to our democracy. Political opponents instigating endless investigations and allegations against eachother? That does not disturb you at all?
Right. There were just persistent loud claims that Clinton was a criminal. Those republican claims have poisoned the minds of cult members to the point that they think that it's reasonable to bring Clinton's name up relative to political corruption. I mean, here you are talking about Clinton in respect to investigations and indictments even though you know of zero evidence that there was a crime that she should be investigated for. It's like so many conservatives live in a delusion where there's public evidence that Clinton tried to extort the Ukranian president or replaced her attorney general for insufficient fealty or encouraged her fans to fight like hell to STOP THE STEAL... but no evidence of that behavior from Trump.
What tactics that have never been used before are you talking about? Phone calls to secretaries of state asking for more votes... tactics like that? Or tactics like inviting an angry mob to STOP THE STEAL and refusing to admit defeat and participate in a peaceful transfer of power? Those are dangerous and unprecedented tactics, right?
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Really? You can't get past a typo? It seems you cannot get past the content of the post. It was very long and all you diverted to is a typo? Have anything to say about the content? Or are you here to spell check and grammar police?