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mp86 · Mar 21, 2014

matthewandrew you hit the nail on the head.

16mm great equation.

I don't know where some of you guys get the numbers form, like waiting 6 to 9 years to get into a nursing program. Is your GPA that bad????? If the answer is yes, then you may want to consider a different career choice.

It took me two years to complete my pre-nursing classes both science and generals. I applied to 3 different college and I already know that I will get accepted into all 3 of them.

However, even if you screwed up 3 or 4 classes, it will take you less than a year to retake them and get a higher grade in these classes to boost your GPA. If you can't manage to get a higher grade although you have taken the class already 2 or 3 times then you should not go into nursing or any other medical field. I don't want a doctor to treat my knee injury who had a C in his anatomy class, no thank you. But I also don't want a nurse who lacks basic knowledge about anatomy, physio or chemistry but he/she only is a nurse because he/she payed her way through nursing school.

You will only loose one year if you have to retake a couple classes to boost your GPA to get into a nursing program and one year does not justify 100+k student loan.

I worked hard and so did many other nursing students and nurses to get into a competitive school and when I am done I also want to enjoy a competitive pay and qualified co-workers but these for profit schools are just saturating the market with unqualified people which just drives salaries down.

Nonetheless · Mar 21, 2014

I don't like WCU. It's not worth it to go 200K into debt to become a nurse, and their nursing program doesn't offer a capstone/ preceptorship. Hang in there and keep trying to get into a respectable public school. It's the only way that is worth it in my opinion.

dreezy562 · Mar 21, 2014

If you have a 4.0 you have a 50/50 chance. It's a lottery system.

dreezy562 · Mar 21, 2014

We all have to pass the same test anyways. If we both passed the same test your education isn't any better than mine.

mp86 · Mar 21, 2014

I don't know where you live dreezy562, but in my area Socal (Riverside) all the programs I have looked into and applied to are all using point system, I looked mostly into CC and Cal State programs. Also their nclex pass rate does not really support that they are qualified nurses after graduating from WCU. For sure after taking the nclex three or four times they will pass it eventually, which does not make them a qualified nurse to me.

matthewandrew, NP · Mar 21, 2014

NCLEX evaluates MINIMUM competency. It's meant to protect the public from substandard nursing practice. When you're a patient, you'd prefer a nurse who not only passed a 75+ question exam, but earned their nursing degree BEFORE and during nursing school.

Matthew Andrew, BSN RN

dreezy562 · Mar 22, 2014

Do you guys think you just pay money and instantly pass your classes? That's funny. The classes are not easy and they are accelerated. It's hard work to keep your grades up. You earn your degree the whole way thru the program. Sure it's expensive, but we learn the same material you learn and pass the same test, except It takes a shorter amount of time. I don't really feel like waiting any longer for a lottery system to maybe get into a program, even with 4.0. I would rather pay a little extra to get done with school sooner. I calculated it all out and it's do able for me. So I went for it. Will it be doable for you? Idk you gotta figure that out in your own.

And Fannie Mae are crooks but you can get cheaper loans elsewhere it's pretty simple. Just need to research.

dreezy562 · Mar 22, 2014

I don't know where you live dreezy562 but in my area Socal (Riverside) all the programs I have looked into and applied to are all using point system, I looked mostly into CC and Cal State programs. Also their nclex pass rate does not really support that they are qualified nurses after graduating from WCU. For sure after taking the nclex three or four times they will pass it eventually, which does not make them a qualified nurse to me.[/quote']
Yeah riverside is a lot less impacted than long beach where I live. Cal state is packed. CC is packed. Every prereq has waiting lists and the school only does lottery system for the nursing programs.
You guys also have to think about the length of time the classes are in cal states vs WCU. WCU has you bang out 6-8 classes a year while the cal states have very long semesters of classes.

matthewandrew, NP · Mar 22, 2014

We didn't say you don't work hard. What were saying is that your school admits a thousand (exaggerated) desperate prenursing students who don't want to wait or can't get in nonprofit schools and it OVERSATURATES the field. WCU and other for-profit trade schools degrades the profession by allowing anyone with average grades in the program. Also, the large WCU billboards on the freeways are just way too tacky.

SERIOUS ABOUT NURSING?

Matthew Andrew, BSN RN

dreezy562 · Mar 22, 2014

Just because they get admitted into the program doesn't mean they will make it thru. I've already seen people quit trying to do pre reqs

You have to pass an entrance exam as well.

You don't think people with bad grades get into nursing programs at CC and cal states??

The way it goes here 25% of people get picked from 2.0-2.9 gpa

Another 25% for 3.0-3.9 gpa

And the last 50% for 4.0 gpa

mp86 · Mar 22, 2014

If their would be CC or cal states that would accept people with 2.0-2.9 gpa then we would not have that conversation because nobody would consider WCU.

I really don't think that people with a 2.0-2.9 will get into a CC or a Cal State nursing program, at least not in my area. All CC and Cal States I have looked up go by a point system. The higher the GPA and the higher the entrance exam the more points you get. Those 45 or 100 people with the highest scores get into the program. The schools I have applied to have between 800-1200 applicants, so there are easily 100 people who have a really good gpa and entrance exam score.

OCRN3 · Mar 22, 2014

Back in 1999 all you needed to get into UcLa school of nursing was a 2.5. They have only raised the standards since everyone wants to be a nurse. At the community colleges a 2.0 was acceptable also. It's only now that nurses. Are required a high GPA. I mean nurses are not doctors, they really don't need a 4.0 in sciences do they?