We took a stand against our Clinical Instructor...

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>>> Sorry - this is a big vent and may be very long!!

Today we took a stand against our clinical instructor (and now I'm a little worried).

Our CI is new to the school and new to the hospital. She was a last minute replacement, but claims she has 10 years teaching experience. We are half way into our rotation.

The earliest she has arrived was 15 minutes late - and that was on the first day. Since then, she insisted that we start clinicals 1 hour early (which put a strain on some of our schedules), and has been at least 30 minutes late every day.

When she does show up, she only has a list of patients on the floor. She does not check with the head nurse about who is getting discharged. She does not check the medication chart about what kinds of meds (and what time) the patient will get. She brings in her list and randomly assigns us a patient... AFTER we have already been waiting up to 45 minutes for her to show up! We usually do not hit the floor for 2-2.5 hours after our clinical started. Sometimes we end up with nothing to do (due to discharges and no meds to pass). She told us to bring our books to study, and to hide in the conference room:banghead:

There are other frustrations - wasting time talking endlessly about herself, her family, every health problem she has ever had, etc, etc...

Although I would not say she is mean to us, she can be condescending to some of the patients (behind their backs), primarily the overweight or mentally impaired.

Our professors that teach the theory part of the class are aware of the problems (heard it from the grapevine, I guess), but can't do anything about it. They have been supportive of us, and have given us some advice.

The official school policy is that a student must wait 10 minutes for an instructor to show up. Our professor said that certainly after 20 minutes we can assume they will be absent.

So.. today, we waited 20 minutes, then as a group, got up and left. We all went home. I really wanted to talk to her first (as a group) and then leave tomorrow if she is late again, but I agreed to go with the majority.

Now I am really worried. This woman will be writing our evaluations. I know she will be angry, and have no idea what will happen tomorrow. I think we have enough documentation to put administration on our side, but this could get really ugly.

Anyone ever had anything like this happen to them???

:yeah:Im glad that the outcome came out good ! :yeah:i would of hated if you guys would had to retake the clinicals . :uhoh21:

:chuckle So maybe she needs some retraining herself :chuckle she is offically put back on "Trainee Mode":D

congrats to you hun :)

I guess this thread has been beaten to death...

but I wanted to share what just happened.

I just got a call from our Director of Nursing. Our Clinical Instructor has been replaced with another instructor, one that we have all worked with before. I know she is tough, but fair, and a very good teacher. I am thrilled!

I think because we all stuck together, had very good documentation, and followed the proper channel, it worked out well for us. We were all expecting to have to meet with the Dean, but it wasn't even necessary.

I appreciate all of the support that I have received from this comminity, and I hope that anyone in a similar situation will not be afraid to do the right thing. Sometimes the school does listen and respond!

:yeah:

I'm glad that everything turned out O.K. There needs to be more people in nursing who will stand up for what is right. I hope all of your classmates do well, because I think all of them will make good nurses. (And I hope they join this website.)

Specializes in Day program consultant DD/MR.

Glad to see that the situation was taken care of. Best of luck with your future clinicals.

Specializes in Oncology, Med-Surg, Nursery.

Wow! I have been following this one and I am glad everything worked out for all of you!! Way to stand your ground! :)

Specializes in Acute Medicine.

Yay!! I'm so happy for you! Thank you for sharing the entire saga! I'm starting my first clinicals next month, so I found your story to be very well timed. I hope I don't have a clinical instructor like yours.

Did anyone ever say anything at all when she arrived late? (I would assume so!) Otherwise I agree with the other post where someone said you are paying a lot and this is YOUR education: you are the consumer. Please update us !!!!

--it is so frustrating when our schools treat us horribly because there are too many of us and not enough of them (instructors). Happens where I am also.

Specializes in ER, NICU, NSY and some other stuff.

You know noone shauld have had to say a word to her about being late. Does no one think she didn't or shouldn't have known better?

What I would have done initially is start calling the school office asking if anyone there knew if the indtructor was ok. I would show obvious concern for her safety as she was 15 minutes late........

i agree: i can't imagine my ci being late and not saying/asking 'are you alright? we've been worried...' anyway: after my post i read more and now know the whole story: i'm new to this site so didn't know how it all worked.

I hate to toot my own horn, but well, if I don't, who will; although I didn't think the change would be so drastic...:yeah::chuckle:D

so now that it's all said and done and you pretty much got the results you ultimately had hoped for, if you had to do it all over again, would you have gone to the instructor first, or would you do it all over the same way?

Wow, that is a good question. I originally wanted to talk seriously, as a group, to her on Monday to give her a "final warning", then act on Tuesday. But honestly, I don't think it would have changed the outcome, and would just have wasted one more day. We had been politely trying to make her understand that waiting around for her was frustrating, and also politely trying to keep her on track when she would go off on some tangent that had nothing to do with nursing, but being polite was getting us nowhere. Someone needed to stand up and say very clearly "Look, you are late every day. We are not getting the clinical time we need. We are not getting enough work for us to do. You are our instructor - and this has to change!" Obviously that didn't happen.

Being polite and beating around the bush wasn't working. I do think what we did was underhanded and kind of mean, but as far as I can tell we acted within the parameters set by the school. It definitely got EVERYONE's attention!! No one at the school seems to be upset with us; they have actually apologized and thanked us for having the courage to come forward.

I don't think anyone of us expected this outcome. We just figured (hoped) she wouldn't be "invited" back for any more clinicals. No one wants to see someone lose their job. (She seemed like a very nice person, and I hope she will be ok emotionally. I don't think she has any clue that her behavior was wrong, so I think she will be pretty upset.) However, you must be prepared to do the job you were hired to do. There are 7 potential nurses that almost lost an entire clinical rotation because she could not and would not teach. I'm so glad the administration listened to us and acted quickly so that we have another 3 weeks to make up for lost time.

So, to answer your question, I guess I would say I'm glad we did what we did. However, I certainly would not have had the courage to do it on my own, that's for sure!

You know noone shauld have had to say a word to her about being late. Does no one think she didn't or shouldn't have known better?

What I would have done initially is start calling the school office asking if anyone there knew if the indtructor was ok. I would show obvious concern for her safety as she was 15 minutes late........

The very first day of clinicals, she was 15 minutes late. We were standing in front of the nursing station wondering what to do. We really didn't think she would show up. When she got there, we said "Hey, what happened? we were worried that you weren't going to make it!"

She said, "Oh, I'm just being fashionably late!"

No apology whatsoever.

And 15 minutes late was the earliest she ever showed up.

Specializes in Home Health.

Kudos to you and your classmates for taking control of your own destiny. I am thrilled for y'all that everything worked in your favor. Good luck on the rest of your scholastic endeavors and throughout your career!:up:

You absolutely did the right thing.

I'm so glad you guys all have an instructor you know and know is going teach you. :)

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