I keep hearing about how hard nursing school is. Well, I know that, or everyone would go and pass! I need to hear some positive stories! Have you heard of Hypnobirthing? One suggestion is to block out the negative stories that people always offer up so that that doesn't become YOUR reality. Please share with me what you enjoyed about nursing school and HOW you made it easy for YOU!
Literally no regular nurse needs to know anything about reaction rates, kinetics, etc. Organic and biochem are great classes but if your that far in your studies, might as well apply to med school lol.
Literally no regular nurse needs to know anything about reaction rates, kinetics, etc. Organic and biochem are great classes but if your that far in your studies, might as well apply to med school lol.
“Need to know” is an opinion. The more you know the better. Sometimes I can make better suggestions for my patients when I call the MD because I know other considerations he wouldn’t think of, maybe he doesn’t even know this patient, and this is the first time he is looking through the chart.
Knowledge is power. Any time you think “I don’t need to know that”, yeah maybe you can get away with not knowing, but there might be that one time it helps.
As we said in the army- “always know one level above your position and two levels below”
I was exposed to the fact that different nursing programs have different prerequisite requirements early on. One program wanted biochem. To get to biochem one had to take a full year of inorganic and a full year of organic chem. Another program required two semesters of chem but those were special chem classes for allied health students. They aligned to one semester of inorganic and one semester of organic with biochem thrown in at the end. Yet another program required even more of the organic chem. Then there was the diploma program that only required that a student had taken chem in high school. Lack of continuity and a homogeneous curriculum across nursing lays the foundation for a lack of a national nursing license. Now that is a pet peeve of mine. If you are a citizen of the US, you should get an equivalent education across the US, and should be able to earn a nursing license that is good throughout the US. But, we all know how close that dream is to reality.
And I’ve asked 5 friends and coworkers how they’re liking NP school and it sounds like my sentiment exactly. Except I think stats is a good math to take. Found it and physics extremely useful when developing handloads for my rifle, sample size etc. I just don’t understand why stats is a part of NP. You already take that as a BSN prereq. That’s another big problem I have with nursing education- it’s so many repeats of the same stuff. Medical micro and AP in nursing school, RN adn stuff in RN to BSN, and undergrad stuff in graduate level. It’s like they think we’re stupid and forgot it.
And I’ve asked 5 friends and coworkers how they’re liking NP school and it sounds like my sentiment exactly. Except I think stats is a good math to take. Found it and physics extremely useful when developing handloads for my rifle, sample size etc. I just don’t understand why stats is a part of NP. You already take that as a BSN prereq. That’s another big problem I have with nursing education- it’s so many repeats of the same stuff. Medical micro and AP in nursing school, RN adn stuff in RN to BSN, and undergrad stuff in graduate level. It’s like they think we’re stupid and forgot it.
You don't understand why stats is part of grad school? Graduate level stats is required even for the PhD level applications I am currently completing. Research based stats is definitely not the same as under grad stats. I only wrote 3 papers my entire NP program and they were in Theory, Health Policy, and part of my Capstone. This again is why you choose a school carefully. Also, how far along are they in NP school? First year? Then that makes sense. I felt physics was useless when it came to analyzing statistics and I was a biomed major before becoming an RN.
Some of them are NPs. This was her first year in school. My best friend has been a licensed APRN for about 2 years now. He says it’s bullsh but he wanted “more juice for the squeeze” when it came to pay, and couldn’t do MD because of family responsibilities of having 4 kids. He said “yeah you’re wholly unprepared but you just have to be smart and talk to the physicians you work with and you can learn it”
I understand why stats is necessary, but you take stats in undergrad. And I confirmed the material. It’s the same stuff. Why do they waste our time with so many repeats? My time is valuable.
Some of them are NPs. This was her first year in school. My best friend has been a licensed APRN for about 2 years now. He says it’s bullsh but he wanted “more juice for the squeeze” when it came to pay, and couldn’t do MD because of family responsibilities of having 4 kids. He said “yeah you’re wholly unprepared but you just have to be smart and talk to the physicians you work with and you can learn it”
I understand why stats is necessary, but you take stats in undergrad. And I confirmed the material. It’s the same stuff. Why do they waste our time with so many repeats? My time is valuable.
Again not sure what type of program your friends went through, but mine was quite different. Stats was different than undergrad stats ??♀️ However, I also went to clinical with NPs whose school didn't require proctored exams and didn't know the significance of nitrites in a UA when prescribing antimicrobial therapy; so I'm never suprised. I agree you get out of it what you put into it and I expected a little more than I recieved. Every preceptor I had was an MD and all said I needed to go to med school instead, so maybe that's why my expectations were higher because my knowledge base is different. I always say if you want to be an MD or get an MD education go medical school, as an NP your education builds on your nursing foundation and it is a different model entirely.
Again not sure what type of program your friends went through, but mine was quite different. Stats was different than undergrad stats ??♀️ However, I also went to clinical with NPs whose school didn't require proctored exams and didn't know the significance of nitrites in a UA when prescribing antimicrobial therapy; so I'm never suprised. I agree you get out of it what you put into it and I expected a little more than I recieved. Every preceptor I had was an MD and all said I needed to go to med school instead, so maybe that's why my expectations were higher because my knowledge base is different. I always say if you want to be an MD or get an MD education go medical school, as an NP your education builds on your nursing foundation and it is a different model entirely.
They really need to make a standard. That can only weaken nursing as a procession. It is good to hear not all schools are like this. I mean it must be nice only paying 21,000$ but still..
They really need to make a standard. That can only weaken nursing as a procession. It is good to hear not all schools are like this. I mean it must be nice only paying 21,000$ but still..
I agree no standardization weakens our profession. We also need our own governing boards and ethical principles as both MDs and PAs do, we discussed this very topic in my health care policy course. We have NPs working outside of their scope and it weakens the bargaining power if those who hold those specializations. Hell I had to pay over 2K to practice in CA yet they don't require National Certification! ? It's a money making scheme and why so many new grad NPs are getting *** contracts and can't prove their worth.
Apparently at my school, if you took the test a second time and "failed", the professor wouldn't let you "officially" turn it in and tell you to go back to your seat and do it again until you passed it. I don't think anyone ever "flunked" out of nursing school for not passing a dosage exam, I think it was just to scare us.
It was serious in my program. Five of them were withdrawn from the program after two dosage calculation exams. It was, passing dosage calc, our contract with the school. They have one more try to reapply.
1st week down! Thus far, the material isn't difficult. BUT...I've been taking 1-2 classes at a time for a long time to get my pre-reqs done and now I'm taking SIX classes at once! So I would say the hardest part (in just the 1st week), is managing all the different apps/books and time.
Edited to say, no, I don't have an option in how much I take at one time with this particular program. All or nothing!
TitleTownRN, MSN, APRN
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This is true too! Lol ?