warning to all excelsior students- i want all potential and current students to know what happened to my girlfriend. take it for what its worth. my girlfriend was a california excelsior student for 6 long yrs (worked full time, supported and took care of her 3 kids) . she spent thousands & thousands of dollars for very expensive books, tests (about $200 per test). skills bags ($150), dvd ($130) , flashcards ($25), audio cd ($25), workshop ($700), and the outrageously expensive and outrageously easy to fail cpne (the 3 day clinical examination that must be passed to receive your rn degree). she failed the first cpne (as way more than half do). that meant another $1800 to retake that. of course, there were airline tickets (about $500 per trip x 2), hotels (about $450 per cpne) and car rentals ($250 per trip). all together she spent close to $20,000 to obtain what is essentially a worthless degree. not one of the 14 hospitals she contacted would hire her when she told them she was an excelsior graduate. are you hearing me? not one. so, when they tell you they're accredited, yada,yada,yada - remember it doesn't mean you can get a job. she tried to enroll in 3 regular, legit college programs. they all refused her because she already had her degree and rn license. so now, she can't even do that. excelsior knew years ago there was a problem. they had the opportunity to work with the ca board of registered nursing. they didn't. if you don't believe me - go to their site. type in 'excelsior' and see for yourself. also, go to georgia's nursing website. see the problems there. nurses are being denied jobs because they're excelsior graduates!!! don't let this happen to you. go to a respected and accepted college.
I guess I need to make myself clear. California also said they will go on a case by case basis. To me that's not consistant. If anything they should have something across the board so there's no question, and IMO they need to post it on their website with some specifics. I don't see anything on the CA BRN regarding this. What they do have posted is very vague.
Well, either you accept it or you don't accept it. Letting people endorse in their license from another state with paid RN experience elsewhere is speaking with a forked tongue and inconsistent if you ask me. Case by case basis for what? The education is the same. Another state allows an RN to practice so that makes it ok? Does not make a bit of sense.
My wife and I recently enrolled in Excelsior after working as respiratory therapists for many years, and I contacted the CA Board of Nursing just to hear for myself what their requirement was.
I was told that they considered applicants on a case by case basis, but when I asked politely what my chances were, I was told that if I worked more than 1000 hours as a licensed RN in another state, it would likely be a matter of paperwork to endorse into the State.
I live in Texas, and I know several Excelsior graduates who have had no problems with finding positions and doing well.
My wife and I recently enrolled in Excelsior after working as respiratory therapists for many years, and I contacted the CA Board of Nursing just to hear for myself what their requirement was.
I was told that they considered applicants on a case by case basis, but when I asked politely what my chances were, I was told that if I worked more than 1000 hours as a licensed RN in another state, it would likely be a matter of paperwork to endorse into the State.
I live in Texas, and I know several Excelsior graduates who have had no problems with finding positions and doing well.
Good luck to all of you in your endeavors.
Regards,
Eric
That's great news. I was hoping with a change of leadership they would come around. I also hope that Excelsior strikes while the iron is hot with a completely new board and tries to renegotiate. Now that Terry is thankfully gone, perhaps real progress can take place.
I totally agree, it's very inconsistant. I totally agree the education is the same, why California chooses to do that is beyond me. I believe they should accept Excelsior graduates whether they are fresh RN grads or not.
There are several states that require working as an RN for x number of hours (usually between 500 and 1000) before endorsing Excelsior graduates. It is supposedly to take the place of the clinical hours.
I think what you are refering to is the self-serving rhetoric and garbage spewed by the California BRN under the former Terry administration. Just so you are aware the entire Board of Registered Nursing here in California were fired because essentially they couldn't do their job. BRN executive officer, Ruth Ann Terry, my personal hero, was forced to resign because, the clueless bimbo that she is, failed to maintain any form of accountability for her failure to provide proper leadership to the BRN.
Excelsior was brought to the courts by the CA RN Board and the courts determined that Excelsior did not meet the clinicals required at the time they went to court. The Executive Officer of a Board serves at the pleasure of the Board members and cannot just do anything she wants to do. If you all want the law changed, go to the Board members who are appointed by the Governor.
LVN in CA takes no online/distance learning courses which includes proof of completion of the 12th grade.
Why the big ruckus with the RN Board and the deadlines? When you are refering to the enforcement cases, you have to figure in 3 different state agencies all of which have 3 furlough days a month. The workload will get behind and only 1 senator backed this up. 1 senator fought for the boards to eliminate the furloughs as they are self supporting, not paid from the budget and safety to the public but the legislature nixed it. Go figure but Dept of Education, Secretary of State, Equalization (all depts headed by public officials) are not furloughed. Health and safety, disciplining nurses, doctors, etc are furloughed and make their own money. I think Ruth Terry was smart to get out.
Again, please provide a few names of these hospitals. Baby needs a new pair of shoes.
A lot of ppl are talking about which states will not allow you to work in their state with an associates from Excelsior. What about if you do your RN-BSN at a brick and mortar school? Would their restriction still apply? Thanks.
If you're were already a RN and you decided to get your BSN then you should have no problems. I believe it's for people who have their initial RN from Excelsior. You should be alright since you already had your RN when you went on for your BSN
A lot of ppl are talking about which states will not allow you to work in their state with an associates from Excelsior. What about if you do your RN-BSN at a brick and mortar school? Would their restriction still apply? Thanks.
The state BONs will always look at the origin of your RN. Even if you get a BSN later from a brick-and-mortar school, your RN will always have come from Excelsior, so the state restrictions will still apply.
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Have there ever been issues here in NY with EC? I would Imagine not, being they are based out of Albany, is that a safe assumption? Just curious. All this negativity in this thread is a bit discouraging. However, I will not be side lined by it. I will continue to persue my educational goals for myself and for my children. I feel that I am a very good nurse and I will achieve my goal one way or the other. I am still looking in to EC.
Excelsior has produced many excellent RN's. I just wish California would see that. Once I finish my LVN-RN program I'm enrolling in Excelsior RN-MSN program.
However, I will not be side lined by it. I will continue to persue my educational goals for myself and for my children. I feel that I am a very good nurse and I will achieve my goal one way or the other. I am still looking in to EC.
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I guess I need to make myself clear. California also said they will go on a case by case basis. To me that's not consistant. If anything they should have something across the board so there's no question, and IMO they need to post it on their website with some specifics. I don't see anything on the CA BRN regarding this. What they do have posted is very vague.