Voting for Arnold?

I am not voting for Arnold because of the way he attacked ratios but ...

I am so disappointed in Phil Angelides. When will democrats learn not to support driver's licenses for illegals. Gray Davis' defeat ... and Arnold's previous victory on that issue wasn't enough?

Why democrats support illegals the way they do is beyond me. Political suicide ... really. It's like they're hell bent on losing elections and they're going to lose this one ... again.

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I am not voting for Arnold because of the way he attacked ratios but ...

I am so disappointed in Phil Angelides. When will democrats learn not to support driver's licenses for illegals. Gray Davis' defeat ... and Arnold's previous victory on that issue wasn't enough?

Why democrats support illegals the way they do is beyond me. Political suicide ... really. It's like they're hell bent on losing elections and they're going to lose this one ... again.

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Oh I'm afraid you are right. I'm disgusted with both parties but Arnold has proven he can't be trusted.

And he supports to companies that employ illegal workers because they are afraid to complain about unsafe working conditions. The won't report hazards to CalOSHA

It sounds like the political system there is in just as big a mess as it is in the rest of the country. Many, many voters are finding very little choice

on the ballots. Good luck.

It sounds like the political system there is in just as big a mess as it is in the rest of the country. Many, many voters are finding very little choice

on the ballots. Good luck.

That is why nurses worked so hard to get Prop 89 on the ballot.

Not perfect but now only millionairres and fund raisers can run.

With Clean Money a candidate such as a nurse or teacher can run without the financial backing of the Democrats or Republican party OR the oil companies, HMOs, unions, and pharmaceutical lobbiest money.

https://allnurses.com/forums/f137/nurses-do-you-vote-californians-clean-elections-184950.html

I heard that one the public debate, Phil killed Arnold? I mean, I was living in SF while the nurses unions were fighting him and the police and firemen. I don't like Arnold and quite frankly, he really cannot be trusted. I don't care how good of a job he is currently doing for Cali. I am moving back home next year and God, I certainly hope California is not being run by him again.

Then again, as many have said Angelides isn't giving voters much reason to vote for him. He needed to step up to the plate, but I don't think he did:(

What's going on with the dems and their choices?

it's very frustrating.

Has anybody seen this ballot?

It's a mile long!

They sure don't make it easy to vote these days.

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I'm not voting for Arnold, but unfortunately, I think he has this election in the bag. He turns my stomach.

I am a pre-req student that will be voting for Arnold. I wish the republicans would get tougher on illegal immigration. I hate that so many jobs state in their job requirement, must be bilingual. I am hispanic, but I do not speak spanish. I reailize that I better learn it quick.. but what I hate is when people automatically assume that I speak Spanish..grrrr.... but that is another topic.. but at least it lets you know why I am not voting for Phil.

I am not voting for Arnold because of the way he attacked ratios but ...

I am so disappointed in Phil Angelides. When will democrats learn not to support driver's licenses for illegals. Gray Davis' defeat ... and Arnold's previous victory on that issue wasn't enough?

Why democrats support illegals the way they do is beyond me. Political suicide ... really. It's like they're hell bent on losing elections and they're going to lose this one ... again.

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I know a lot of Democrats who are against illegal immigration most particularly because of labor issues. They believe illegal immigration depresses wages. I know a lot of Republicans who would like to look the other way when it comes to illegal immigration because it depresses wages! I don't know about this driver's license thing. It doesn't make sense to me and it seems like a pretty dumb move of the part of Angelides. But on the whole, Democrats are not for illegal immigration.

I know a lot of Democrats who are against illegal immigration most particularly because of labor issues. They believe illegal immigration depresses wages. I know a lot of Republicans who would like to look the other way when it comes to illegal immigration because it depresses wages! I don't know about this driver's license thing. It doesn't make sense to me and it seems like a pretty dumb move of the part of Angelides. But on the whole, Democrats are not for illegal immigration.

I honestly don't know what harm comes of licensing people. It isn't like not having a license keeps anyone from driving. At least with a license, they can get insurance, plus it makes people easier to find for all kinds of reasons- civil and criminal. As for Angelides, his support is more likely a calculated move to lure more immigrants to the polls.

I honestly don't know what harm comes of licensing people. It isn't like not having a license keeps anyone from driving. At least with a license, they can get insurance, plus it makes people easier to find for all kinds of reasons- civil and criminal. As for Angelides, his support is more likely a calculated move to lure more immigrants to the polls.

I can understand your argument for licensing. If I were an illegal, I think the only reason I would risk getting a valid license would be for all the other "benefits" I could attain from having one and not necessarily to buy insurance. Also, I hear so often about illegals being afraid to get prenatal care, etc., do they really go vote?

Honestly, I don't have a dog in this fight. If I were a Mexican and I could help my family by coming here, I would probably do it. (Actually, I'm not sure I would have the guts.) Because I would do it, doesn't make it "right," though. This argument has so many moral problems. I hope one day soon, we can all find an equitable solution for everybody.

I think they do vote.. the Register had an article in today's paper stating that 743 non-citizens voted in an election in 1996. (yes, they say they have implemented more security...however I think it is time for and ID card) As I stated, I am an American of Hispanic descent... if people want to come here.. no problem.. just go through legal channels. I know many people that have done so.

I remember when I had to seek medical attention for my son. They called my name, and the nurse asked if I spoke "good english" I was mortified.. and my husband (anglo) said nothing since he didn't want the care for our son to suffer. When I went to give the insurance information, I was spoken to in Spanish. I went to check out, and I was spoken to in Spanish. I don't speak Spanish! I finally asked, Am in the U.S.? There are many more reasons for me being a moderate republican.. this is just one reason.

and now.. back to the respiratory system...

(how strange.. that was the very reason why my son was in the ER that night.. RSV)

I can understand your argument for licensing. If I were an illegal, I think the only reason I would risk getting a valid license would be for all the other "benefits" I could attain from having one and not necessarily to buy insurance. Also, I hear so often about illegals being afraid to get prenatal care, etc., do they really go vote?

Honestly, I don't have a dog in this fight. If I were a Mexican and I could help my family by coming here, I would probably do it. (Actually, I'm not sure I would have the guts.) Because I would do it, doesn't make it "right," though. This argument has so many moral problems. I hope one day soon, we can all find an equitable solution for everybody.