Vent

[TheMoonisMyLantern]

So, I have got to get this off my chest. All day today I was at a mandatory inservice that was provided by non-clinical staff for nursing staff. As I have come to expect from our in person inservices and classes addressed to nursing staff, the day was filled with games and activities complete with cutesy pictures and language. The material was presented as though we were all in kindergarten. I am all for using various tools for education when the material warrants it, but the information we were going over today was very basic and not rocket science. If the topics had been convoluted or difficult to grasp, sure, use an activity or prop to make them more tangible, otherwise just tell me what I need to know and don't make me participate in some infantile game. Yes, I'm being paid, so maybe I shouldn't complain but I would much rather be giving patient care and actually working. I just can't help but wonder if they would have used the same approach with physicians, accounting, or some other department and I say this because my entire career required educational meetings and inservices have always been presented this way as opposed to adhering to a professional or academic format. Have other people experienced this or is it just common in my area?

Another thing, off topic but in the same vein, why do things related to nursing have to feel so demeaning? Pizza parties by management, a pen with the company logo for nurses's week, hell even our award for recognition is called the DAISY award! It sounds like an award a girl scout would get, not a skilled, educated professional.

There, I got it out of my system.

I do realized that I could just be a stick in the mud, and that's entirely possible too, I just prefer to embrace my inner child at home, not at work ?

[Ruby Vee, BSN]

I cannot help but remember the cartoon drawings on every power point presentation our nurse educator ever printed out 3 slides to the page and handed to us . . . .

According to research, the patient presentations had to be dumbed down to the third grade level because that's where most of the adults in the region stopped learning. But educating us on ventricular assist devices with cartoons????

[oldandintheway]

Yesterday for the third consecutive year I fell asleep during one of our “mandatory” annual refresher courses. Fortunately/unfortunately a dear friend of mine kept punching me in the arm to wake me up, apparently I was snoring. The instructor was a colleague I’ve known for over a decade and she let it slide after pointing out that I was sleeping again to the whole class. I deal with the subject matter daily, but it is 7 CEs and get paid to attend so I got that going for me.

[Daisy4RN]

15 hours ago, JKL33 said:

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We also invite our former patients to share their experiences on the second day of the retreat. As guests, they share their stories of care received, whether it was exceptional or needed improvement.

Wait, what? ??

I think this is how many nurses would like to spend their days off, with a bunch of former patients complaining about the care they received, and as "guests" no less (sarcasm of course).

And who would even come, I cant imaging myself (as a former patient) ever doing anything like this.

I don't think that admin will ever get it that they are the one in control of patient satisfaction scores!!

I thought I had heard it all, I guess I was wrong!

[pixierose, BSN, RN]

2 hours ago, Daisy4RN said:

I think this is how many nurses would like to spend their days off, with a bunch of former patients complaining about the care they received, and as "guests" no less (sarcasm of course).

And who would even come, I cant imaging myself (as a former patient) ever doing anything like this.

I don't think that admin will ever get it that they are the one in control of patient satisfaction scores!!

I thought I had heard it all, I guess I was wrong!

I think I found something worse than sharing something unique about myself ?.

Can you imagine? The only ones who would show up probably wouldn’t be the ones with exceptionally awesome stories to tell. 8 hours of hearing how terrible things were ...

[Shelisa56]

I recently was in a Director Admin position and I must say the talk behind closed doors are millinials millinials....all of the studies have lend themselves to how to teach nursing staff mainly inpatient to the millinial due to the high percentage of millinials working bedside. And being part of process improvement initiatives I must say pics and quick power points or flashy bulletin boards seems to be what was noticed the most to get education and communication to the bedside nursing staff timely and efficiently. Emails and lenghty information did not work.

[SafetyNurse1968, ADN, BSN, MSN, PhD]

I was in an inservice about trach care and had never met the speaker. He was an ederly man, wearing a trach collar, but talking in a normal voice. It was distracting and confusing. I kept wondering why this man with a trach was giving the talk??? Me trying to figure out the situation was so distracting that I don't remember a single point of his talk. He then proceeded to ask one of us to DO TRACH CARE ON HIM. It was so awkward and uncomfortable. The poor unsuspecting nurse who agreed untied it and the whole thing came off, showing his perfectly intact neck. Apparently it was all just a big "funny" joke. I remember thinking how much I wanted to GIVE the man a real trach (if you know what I mean...)

venting is fun!

[Hoosier_RN, MSN]

On 2/21/2019 at 9:12 PM, Lil Nel said:

I'm just going to say that I have the utmost respect, for those nurses, who reported showing up for inservice, but not attending.

How do you do that?

I want to do that!!!!!!!

I told them I had pts on the tx floor dializing. No other staff out there. They were all in there. The inservice was at noon (only 1 time given), and I just waited until everyone else was off the floor. Can’t leave the pts to run themselves ?

[Katillac, RN]

1 hour ago, SafetyNurse1968 said:

He then proceeded to ask one of us to DO TRACH CARE ON HIM. It was so awkward and uncomfortable. The poor unsuspecting nurse who agreed untied it and the whole thing came off, showing his perfectly intact neck. Apparently it was all just a big "funny" joke.

That's . . . disgustingly and appallingly insensitive. Faking a trach demeans every person who has one. To do it as a joke, well, I hope this presenter got burned to a crisp in the feedback.

[JKL33]

1 hour ago, SafetyNurse1968 said:

I was in an inservice about trach care and had never met the speaker. He was an ederly man, wearing a trach collar, but talking in a normal voice. It was distracting and confusing. I kept wondering why this man with a trach was giving the talk??? Me trying to figure out the situation was so distracting that I don't remember a single point of his talk. He then proceeded to ask one of us to DO TRACH CARE ON HIM. It was so awkward and uncomfortable. The poor unsuspecting nurse who agreed untied it and the whole thing came off, showing his perfectly intact neck. Apparently it was all just a big "funny" joke. I remember thinking how much I wanted to GIVE the man a real trach (if you know what I mean...)

venting is fun!

I think people should be relieved of their positions for coming up with and/or performing stunts like this.

That's the disconnect that is everywhere in this profession. I'm trying not to use hyperbole, but in countless ways it really does seem like most of our big principles (responsibility, accountability, treating people with dignity) really do apply mostly to those at the bedside - - or the concepts are applied disproportionately, to say the least.

[student24]

I totally understand. If you say something then they may write you up, just go with the flow because if u say the truth then you become the PROBLEM. Ridiculous huh but thats nursing....

[mclifford, BSN]

So here is my vent:

While I realize it is frustrating to you, but sometimes the basics have to be reviewed for others attending. The games are part of using different platforms to help with learning. As a manager, pizza is easy, often I am paying out my pocket for it ( as many other managers do), so you sound a little ungrateful to me. We are trying to show that we value your time, and in a way say thanks. As manager we don't often like to make things mandatory but sometimes it is necessary. By not going you are being disrespectful, in my opinion. Most mandatory meeting are related to patient care, or patient safety, by purposefully not going you are give a message that speaks to professionalism. It does not go unnoticed. How some managers act is not up to par, but I often feel like I have to treat people as they are children, because that is the way they act. I find the thread sad-

[JKL33]

3 hours ago, mclifford said:

So here is my vent:

While I realize it is frustrating to you, but sometimes the basics have to be reviewed for others attending. The games are part of using different platforms to help with learning. As a manager, pizza is easy, often I am paying out my pocket for it ( as many other managers do), so you sound a little ungrateful to me. We are trying to show that we value your time, and in a way say thanks. As manager we don't often like to make things mandatory but sometimes it is necessary. By not going you are being disrespectful, in my opinion. Most mandatory meeting are related to patient care, or patient safety, by purposefully not going you are give a message that speaks to professionalism. It does not go unnoticed. How some managers act is not up to par, but I often feel like I have to treat people as they are children, because that is the way they act. I find the thread sad-

In your estimation, do all professionals have this problem of needing to play games for the purposes of utilizing different platforms?

We know mandatory meetings are necessary - that's not proprietary information that you need to disperse in careful fashion lest the children become upset. Your post reads as if you yourself don't realize you're talking to adults.

It sounds like you want people to be grateful for your act of gratitude? Is that right? Genuine acts are more likely to be recognized as such. You need to decide whether your personal sacrifice of purchasing pizza is for the purpose of showing gratitude to others, or whether you mean to use it to manipulate people.

Your view of your relationship with others is concerning.

You don't have to treat anyone as a child. What you have to do is treat others with the same type of regard you would like shown to you. That's all.

I agree with you that skipping meetings [when efforts have been made to have them at appropriate times] is unprofessional.