VA Proficiency Nurse III Frustration & Appeal

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I am feeling frustrated with the entire VA NPSB proficiency process. At my hospital, it is a good old boys system in which board members promote their friends and the other managers and shut the door on others. I am a staff RN with a MSN and years of experience. I applied for my nurse III after completing a hospital wide project and doing other work that met the 9 dimensions.

This whole process has me frustrated beyond words. My profIciency has been lost by HR multiple times. My initial NPSB review said I didnt meet 7 of the 9 dimensions. Before submitting my proficiency, I had it reviewed by 3 former board members who all said I would meet for a 3. I submitted a request for reconsideration after the initial denial, and suddenly I met 6 out of 9 dimensions. I am now appealing my denial to VACO. Has anyone ever done this? What was he outcome, and how long did your appeal take to be answered after it was sent off?

I have been repeatedly been told by my own manager "you cannot get a 3 without working in management" and "it takes multiple submissions to get approved". I do not think this is correct. It may be harder to find the time and get approval for a project, but staff RNs cannot be essentially "blocked" from promotion. The dimensions are black and white, yet a subjective system is used to approve or deny proficiencies. It seems so unfair at my hospital. I've seen other nurses get promoted who were friends with board members, while other truly deserving RNs who meet the dimensions and make lasting changed within the hospital are shut out.

Any guidance and other nurses experience with this would be greatly appreciated. I love working with our Vets, but the good old boys club and the oppressive bureaucracy had me ready to bash my face into something. I feel defeated. Thanks all

Specializes in Clinical Nurse Triage.

It's me again,

I've sent multiple PM's but neglected to give you my email address for Nurse III. My email address is [email protected]

Specializes in NP / USAFR Flight Nurse.

My hospital offers a 1 CE class on proficiency writing and it helped me tremendously. I also look to my upper management for help in writing them as to ensure my promotions occur as earned. Im sorry you are going through this.

What VA are you with? We are getting ready to offer this to our staff and I would love to get in touch with them to see what their presentation is. Our unit employees have a difficult time since material is directed at acute care examples vs psych. I am also having a difficult time with this. Submitted mine last Feb was returned in June and have resubmitted with additional information. Their review said the only thing I met was education. Sigh Am trying for Nurse 3

Specializes in NP / USAFR Flight Nurse.

I am with Bay Pines VA in St. Petersburg, FL. Our nurse educator does the class. You can email her at [email protected]

[h=1]RN4KU any way you could send me your example as well? I am disputing mine right now!!![/h]

Hi RN4KU, BSN, MSN. I have a tentative offer from the VA as a nurse practitioner. I was given the Nurse qualification standards to fill out for Nurse III. I am not sure what have to write exactly. I saw you have been through this before and offered to give people a copy of yours. I am desperate for some help to see an example to be sure this is what they are looking for! Could you please send me a copy of yours as well. I will be really grateful. Since I am new here,I can't PM you. Could you please forward into my email.Thanks.

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Hi Trumi 241, I have a tentative offer from the VA as a nurse practitioner. I was given the Nurse qualification standards to fill out for Nurse III. I am not sure exactly how to write this one. I saw you have been through this before and offered to give people a copy of yours. I am desperate for some help to see an example to be sure this is what they are looking for! Could you please send me a copy of yours as well. I will be really grateful. Could you please send it to my email. [email protected]

Thanks

Specializes in Utilization Review.

So sorry I am just picking back up and reading through all the requests. Emailing is easier because I can just attach. Please keep the group informed of any success or lack of. Hopefully its going better for everyone at the VA. Holding out hope. If you do not get a reply send me a PM too.

Thank you RN4KU for sending the info.

Hi,

Did you get a copy from RN4KU?

Specializes in Critical Care.

Has anyone here done a hospital wide project for their nurse III? If so can I ask what you did it on?

Thanks :)

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