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Update on Walden's post-master's certificate accreditation

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Hello Dear Ones, I am supposed to start Walden University post-masters NP Program on March 1st. Does anybody have any insight into their post-master's accreditation? I think CCNE had a visit there in October but there they still did not post any update...Do you think it is safe to start the program and it will get accredited eventually? Thank you 

Go to literally any state school instead of Walden

MentalKlarity, BSN, NP

Specializes in Psychiatry. Has 8 years experience.

I do not think it is wise to attend a school that is under investigation by the US Dept of Justice for potentially misrepresenting their nursing program to students and nursing boards. Do you really want to have that on your resume, assuming they even manage to make it through without closing?

Thank you so much. I had no idea that Walden was under investigation by the US Dept of Justice. Wow. Where can I learn more about it?

It is not ideal but there are not many options for me now during Pandemic as local schools do not take new students due to problems with clinicals, so yes Walden would likely still be in play for me if they got accredited by March 1st (this is when I am supposed to start). I am also looking at Herzing University by their post-master's Psych NP Program takes 2 years is more expensive. 

Any insight into what school to do thats accepted in California? Thank you so much.

I just did some Google search about the US Dep of Justice investigations...wow. I had no clue. I have been in weekly touch with admissions department and advising and I have been numerously reassured that everything is fine and the accreditation is coming and that CCNE has been very impressed and happy during the last visit in November. No mention about any inverstigation at all. That's a bummer. I wanted to start in January with National University but they did not open due to Covid. No Walden seems not a good option. :(:( About to cry.

MentalKlarity, BSN, NP

Specializes in Psychiatry. Has 8 years experience.

34 minutes ago, Agape practitioner said:

I just did some Google search about the US Dep of Justice investigations...wow. I had no clue. I have been in weekly touch with admissions department and advising and I have been numerously reassured that everything is fine and the accreditation is coming and that CCNE has been very impressed and happy during the last visit in November. No mention about any inverstigation at all. That's a bummer. I wanted to start in January with National University but they did not open due to Covid. No Walden seems not a good option. :(:( About to cry.

There are many great options that are more reputable! Try:

 

Samford University, Frontier University, George Washington University, University of Alabama -Birmingham and Georgia State University. Those are online schools I had previously vetted and looked through the curriculum, spoke to staff, etc and was satisfied with their programs.

 

 

 

Wow. Thank you! This is so very kind of you. I will double check but I don't think any of these is on aproved California board of nursing list for doing approved clinicals in California. I will check again though. 

MentalKlarity, BSN, NP

Specializes in Psychiatry. Has 8 years experience.

1 minute ago, Agape practitioner said:

Wow. Thank you! This is so very kind of you. I will double check but I don't think any of these is on aproved California board of nursing list for doing approved clinicals in California. I will check again though. 

If you find any that are approved PM me and I will look into it for you, make sure they seem legit! 🙂

 

good luck! Stay positive

djmatte, ADN, MSN, RN, NP

Has 7 years experience.

I’m a graduate from frontier. Love the school and culture.  There are some in person requirements such as orientation and pre-clinical checks, but it’s a great opportunity to really meret your classmates and get a feel for the schools history. 

MentalKlarity, BSN, NP

Specializes in Psychiatry. Has 8 years experience.

2 minutes ago, djmatte said:

I’m a graduate from frontier. Love the school and culture.  There are some in person requirements such as orientation and pre-clinical checks, but it’s a great opportunity to really meret your classmates and get a feel for the schools history. 

I've heard this as well, seems to be a great program.

And quite frankly, any online school training a MEDICAL PROVIDER should have hands on components on campus. Fully online programs with no skills classes come across as terrifying. There definitely needs to be hands on physical assessment labs, prostate exams, pap smear training, etc. Recording a video and sending it in isn't going to cut it.

djmatte, ADN, MSN, RN, NP

Has 7 years experience.

1 minute ago, MentalKlarity said:

I've heard this as well, seems to be a great program.

And quite frankly, any online school training a MEDICAL PROVIDER should have hands on components on campus. Fully online programs with no skills classes come across as terrifying. There definitely needs to be hands on physical assessment labs, prostate exams, pap smear training, etc. Recording a video and sending it in isn't going to cut it.

Yeah they won’t let you near a clinical site until you go through their in person check offs. 

Thank you all. I don't qualify for Frontier post master's certificate program for PMHNP because they unfortunately offer that program only to APRNs :(. It is a great school though but my MSN is in nursing education.

I am really thinking about Herzing University's postmasters PMHNP certificate program as that one is approved my CA board of nursing and is accredited (unlike Walden's post masters certificates programs). What do you guys think? It is 24 months though which is longer than I was hoping for. Mental Clarity? Thank you so much. 

MentalKlarity, BSN, NP

Specializes in Psychiatry. Has 8 years experience.

I'll do some research for you! I haven't heard of any red flags though for Herzing.

You are very kind. Thank you. I just wish it was less than 24 months and no clinical hours for advanced physical assessment class because it is extra work to find preceptors for non--psych classes during pandemic but others have done it so it must be doable. 

Much, much gratitude.

MentalKlarity, BSN, NP

Specializes in Psychiatry. Has 8 years experience.

Agape, Herzing is what they call a "covert" for-profit. It's where the convert from for-profit to not-for-profit in order to avoid stigma but still funnel money into someone's pockets - in this case the Herzing family. That said, there have NO active investigations, I haven't seen any red flags from students posted online about poor education or misleading statements, and they do not have the stigma associated with them that Walden, Phoenix, etc do. In addition, the school states at this point that have severed ties with the Herzing family and are operating as a full not-for-profit, and I haven't see anything that contradicts this.

 

My assessment: I think it would be fine for now. Obviously proceed with caution as regulators are starting to crack down on both for profit and "covert" for profits but nothing is throwing up red flags at the moment. Good luck.

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THANK YOU. You are very kind and caring Soul. I am grateful for your insight and help. If it wasn't for you I wouldn't know anything about Walden s criminal investigation and wasted my time and money there. 

It looks like I will go with Herzing for now to do my 3Ps and then try to transfer to National University in July as their program is only 1 year and they are online and brick and mortar as well. I thank you from the depth of my heart and many blessings on your journey. Love, Jari Pohankova 

MentalKlarity, BSN, NP

Specializes in Psychiatry. Has 8 years experience.

4 hours ago, Agape practitioner said:

THANK YOU. You are very kind and caring Soul. I am grateful for your insight and help. If it wasn't for you I wouldn't know anything about Walden s criminal investigation and wasted my time and money there. 

It looks like I will go with Herzing for now to do my 3Ps and then try to transfer to National University in July as their program is only 1 year and they are online and brick and mortar as well. I thank you from the depth of my heart and many blessings on your journey. Love, Jari Pohankova 

Most welcome, good luck at Herzing! 🙂