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Always, always, always ask about the attrition rate

Northern Kentucky University. Cheap. Accelerated option. No on campus visits. A lot of it is self-taught though. If you can't be accountable for your own education, you will do badly. I like it though. Lots of freedom and did I mention it's cheap?

Yeah my friend self taught himself code and now runs a whole department at a major company without a degree. If for some reason grad school doesn't work out, I think I'll get one just to be more marketable, but it's not 100% needed

Are you any good with computers? My friend works in a field where a BS in Computer Science would land you a nice job that is much lower stress and better paying

I love SNFs way better than acute care. However, I also don't want to do this job until I retire And that is the horror of 12 hour shifts

Hi all, I have an opportunity to join an ACT (assertive community treatment program for seriously mentally ill individuals). Should I take it? Pros? Cons?

Document "MD aware" and testify against them in court ??

??? I literally mentioned my supporting reasons like 4 times and you never once replied to them. So... you're the one being professional by completely disengaging with reason from the very beginning? ???

First, if you don't want to have a "stale" conversation, no one is forcing you to read or reply. I apologizing for not spending my life on AllNurses. And some people in this country think that everything is an "opinion" when there is very clearly a rational basis for my argument and there is none for yours. It was not me stating that we cannot come to conclusions without a study being done. As we all should know, there are varying levels of evidence and not everything needs to be proven (nor can be) by a randomized, controlled trial. I have given you reasons why my position is right. You have given me your "opinion" devoid of any supporting reasons. You continue to not engage with the reasons I have given and instead conflate my evidence with your lack of evidence. How is scanning groceries, learning the rules of coupons, and learning PLU numbers comparable to learning medications, common dosages, symptoms of common medical conditions, common interventions for acute changes in status, etc (things that nurses do) in relation to preparing one to be a provider *at all*? That position is not only devoid of any supporting reasons, but just plain idiotic. To say that being a nurse provides no foundation at all for later becoming a provider is to completely ignore the role that nurses serve in the healthcare system. Not all opinions are equal. Some have more a more rational foundation upon which they are built. You're welcome to your opinion. You're not welcome to compare your "opinion" to one that actually has a rational basis.

This post made me laugh in a good way ??? It's like people are so focused on bricks and mortar and not on the actual content of the schooling. You don't get a better education just by sitting in a different building besides your home. There is no inherent reason why getting didactic content online is inferior than the exact same content online at home. And especially in the time of coivd, you'd think more people would see the value in online education. At the end of the day, we all are going to have to go to clinicals. We all have to take the same certification exam. We all have to be approved by the BON. If they don't like that, then they need to be rallying around the ceritifcation bodies, not the schools. I do think that some online schools are notoriously bad. Just do a Google search about the investigation into Walden. When I was doing my ASN I had a professor with a doctorate from Walden. I already knew then that that school was a joke. However, if it's a state school... There's no reason to doubt it. Online, for-profit? Sure. But just because it's online, that doesn't make it automatically "easy."

... And this was the point of me comparing an RN becoming an NP to a grocery store cashier becoming an NP They are different roles. They do different things. Yes. I get that. But to say that they have nothing to do with each other is blatantly false. Maybe your conversation with other people, but not with me. Apparently you don't like people demonstrating that your comments are just plain wrong ?‍♂️

But you're also completely missing my point which is using the comparison between an RN and a grocery store cashier to illustrate that RN experience does prepare you somewhat for being an NP. It's not everything, but my point is that it is not nothing either.

Of course RN and NP are different roles. If they weren't different roles, the job title wouldn't be different. My point is that RN experience prepares you at least somewhat for advancing your practice. Does it teach you every little thing that an NP does? No. That's why it is called advancing your practice. It builds upon a foundation of healthcare experience. This is why I said that an RN with experience is going to be more prepared for an NP Program than a grocery store cashier. It gives you something and to deny that is to ignore that RNs have a valuable position on the healthcare team. I can't believe this has to be said.

Whether it is required or not is sort of irrelevant. The other poster was saying that RN experience has nothing to do with being an NP.

It is not cherry picking. You literally said that being an RN has nothing to do with being an NP and that is patently false.