Update on Transgender nursing Student

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Well, I don't know how many people have followed my thread on being a transgender nursing student. I have read all the responses and weighed out the most logical and prudent sounding advice. As suggested, I approached someone in Administration, who at first said there was nothing in the school bylaws that would stop me from transitioning at school and was very encouraging and positive this would not even be an issue. This person said let them consult with other members of Administration and the President. My name was never given to anyone in Administration or so I was told.

I have waited many weeks for an answer, over a month has went by. When finally a few days ago, I got a call to come up to the school so they could discuss with me the decision the school had reached. The answer was a negative, that I COULD NOT transition at school:no:. Furthermore, I was given to understand they consulted with an outside governing body that laid down this decision. This governing body stated "This is not within the schools foundational values and such a thing would go counter to the schools morals and values." I was told by said person in Administration that I could not come to school "openly and publically" as a female, but what I did in my personal life had no reflection on the school.

So it is with regret:bluecry1: that I am transfering from this schools nursing program as soon as I have completed as much coursework as I can and transfer to another nursing school within the city.

For the record, I do not support discrimination of transgenders in the workplace...nor with gays. I consider this equal to discrimination based on race.

People don't choose to be their race, I also don't think the people choose to be gay or choose to have gender identity disorder...so both should be protected, in my opinion, at a federal level.

But at the same time, I don't think the school is being narrow minded...they are just supporting what they believe in and want to keep that culture on their campus...just as YOU are supporting what you believe in.

I just don't want you to think I have an issue with transgendered people...quite the opposite. I fully support them.

For the record, I didn't think you had an issue with transgendered people. It doesn't bother me if people don't agree with what I have to say. I'm of the mind that mature adults engaging in intellectual discourse, can always amicably agree to disagree.:yeah:

You might not realize it, but not only am I transgender but I'm African American as well. I have more than a few strikes against me. lol

I understand completely your line of logical, while I don't agree with it, I do accept that it is a valid POV and can not dismiss it.

I've been following the threads and I checked with my legal eagle ( Hubby ) re having your degree and license invalidated when you undergo gender change surgery and he says you will retain license and degree no matter what gender you are. That may be related to the state you are living in though. (CA is where he practices).

Do check with you ACLU branch and they can get you the information and/or point you in the right direction.

Stay true to your self as you continue your journey.

You can also check with your board of nursing about this. I think what her hubby has found it pretty much true in every state.

Private schools don't have to be "hip" or "understanding" or "modern" or "politically correct"....because they simply, don't have to be. Students that apply there accept that when they are admitted.

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So don't say that the school is being discriminatory or that "your rights" are being violated in some way...they are not. That isn't discrimination.

[...]But at the same time, I don't think the school is being narrow minded...they are just supporting what they believe in and want to keep that culture on their campus...just as YOU are supporting what you believe in.

This is very true true, but only if the school receives no financial assistance from the US government whatsoever [this includes Pell grants and other financial aid]. Absolutely, a private school has the right to create whatever religious/moral environment they so choose, provided they don't use taxpayers' money to do so.

Specializes in ER, TRAUMA, MED-SURG.

Like some of the other posters, I think you will be a wonderful asset to your facility as a nurse. I am sorry you are getting the short end of the stick at your school. I understand public vs. private, but it's just a shame that you are trying to be true to yourself and finding a dead end at the school you have been attending.

You have impressive convictions and are standing up for yourself, and that is something to be very proud of. I do hope you have luck in finding a school that you don't meet with these same negative ends. It is also a shame that so many transgender people have been killed there, please be safe in your traveling to and from work - we need more good nurses and don't want to hear about you getting hurt.

Good luck to you - Anne, RNC

Specializes in Community Health, Med-Surg, Home Health.

I have safety issues on my mind as well, which is probably why it is best that the OP did decide to leave the school. What if there are some bigoted students that decide to violate/harm her in any way? I was just reading the paper today about a lesbian that was gang-raped simply because she was open with her lifestyle. I can only imagine the horror because not only was she gang-raped at her car, but when the guys discovered that someone else was in the area, they dragged her to her own car and drove her to an abandoned building to continue with this horrific crime. Then, they leave her out naked and stole her wallet and car.

I have serious issues with people that are so determined to mind other people's affairs and personal decisions to the point of violence.

Specializes in Hospice.
I obviously missed the original thread and sorry if this is just repeating old opinions -

Gender reassignment is a medical procedure - but the place that teaches you to care for people that undergo medical procedures - won't accept your decision to transgender.

How ironic.

And unfortunate.

I guess the religion thing gets them out of being called on discriminatory practice?

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That was my first thought exctly. If you are transgendered it seems that this is a medical dilemma of sorts. I learned a good deal about this area by watching a good deal of documentaries and reading up, just because it interests me. I would think a medical facility full of rational, intelligent and educated people would have more understanding.

I am so sorry that you have had such a hard road. Just remember to keep putting one foot in front of the other and know that their are tons of people out here rooting for you!

Good luck!

Specializes in Community Health, Med-Surg, Home Health.
That was my first thought exctly. If you are transgendered it seems that this is a medical dilemma of sorts. I learned a good deal about this area by watching a good deal of documentaries and reading up, just because it interests me. I would think a medical facility full of rational, intelligent and educated people would have more understanding.

I am so sorry that you have had such a hard road. Just remember to keep putting one foot in front of the other and know that their are tons of people out here rooting for you!

Good luck!

This echos my sentiments exactly. I am always astonished to see how the medical/nursing communities are so bigoted against the very things they learn to treat in school. And, like you, this is a passionate interest to me. I also watch every documentary that comes out on this, reading and communicating with transgendered people who are open enough to share with me.

It also seems more like a medical problem than a psychiatric diagnosis to me, although I can understand why a person would need therapy to help them cope. I also applaud and support the OP in her quest for living a quality life without denial of self.

I know this may sound like a cop out, but I have decided to put living as a full time transgendered female on hold. I have come to the conclusion that what I'm doing will benefit me in the long run, and I can afford to wait. I desire to have my degree just as much as I desire to transition. But I feel that it is a bad move for me to make trying to get accepted into another nursing school when I start my clinicals soon. And there is no real guarantee that a public school will be anymore accepting than the private school.

By the schools reckoning, my private life is my affair and they can not dictate what I do privately. As long as I am not at school as a female, then me actually transitioning is not a problem. As i've stated before, most of the surgery I plan on having is post graduation.

Wow. After having read through most of the situation and the great responses people have given you, I don't really think there's anything left that I can say to you, except this:

You're probably one of the strongest people I've ever seen, attempting to take up nursing and a transition at the same time. I'm really, really awed by you.

No matter what you choose to do in the end (and that last post looks like you've reached a decision on your transition timing), we're always here for you. Some people discount the power of an online community, but believe me, freinds on the internet are just as powerful, loving and wonderful as friends in reality. We're here for you!

I will say that I have been surprised by the outpouring of concern on here. It's simply amazing, even a few of my fellow classmates at school have approached me subtly to say they have been following my posts on here and my desire to transition. A few are angered by the schools refusal to allow me to transition publicly.

I don't see why this has any bearing on whether you become a good nurse or not. I dont see anything morally or ethically wrong with you wanting to make your own personal decisions about your own personal life. I do however think the school are biased against you and the response youve been given is unethical.

Your dedication to become a nurse will be appreciated elsewhere.

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