Unfairness at work

[Loveishope1970]

I put in a request for PTO in July for 3 days off. I requested the days off because it is the day that I removed my son from life support after drowning. I wanted to go home and put flowers on his grave and see my other son. I received an email from my manager stating that he was not going to approve my pto time because she doesn't want to fill the holes with agency. I have a lot of pto and we lose it if we don't use it. I am frustrated and disappointed. I always pick up extra. I don't know what to do. Not being allowed to use pto, a benefit that I have earned, is a deal breaker for me.

[hppygr8ful, ASN, RN, EMT-I]

In my facility it's 6 months unless you arrage for another staff to take your spot.

 

Hppy

 

[JKL33]

1 hour ago, hppygr8ful said:

In my facility it's 60 months unless you arrage for another staff to take your spot.

?

"Cancel."

[Loveishope1970]

We have to submit our pto requests 30 days in advance. Once the schedule comes out, if you need a day off, then you have to find someone to cover for you.

 

[Rose_Queen, BSN, MSN, RN]

35 minutes ago, Loveishope1970 said:

We have to submit our pto requests 30 days in advance. Once the schedule comes out, if you need a day off, then you have to find someone to cover for you.

 

But is there a limit to how early you can submit? That, I think, is more important than due date. 

[Loveishope1970]

No there isn't a limit. We just have to submit 30 days in advance.

[JKL33]

1 hour ago, Rose_Queen said:

But is there a limit to how early you can submit? That, I think, is more important than due date. 

Not really. Unless I'm not understanding what you're saying.

If they needed requests 60 days in advance they would say they must be submitted (by) 60 days in advance of the desired date.

If they needed 5 years to work things out like Hppy mentioned, then they would say that.

If they have said that they need 30 days to meet requests then one might reasonably expect that a request made 30 days in advance satisfies that.

Or are you saying that she might have made the request too early??

 

[Rose_Queen, BSN, MSN, RN]

58 minutes ago, JKL33 said:

Not really. Unless I'm not understanding what you're saying.

If they needed requests 60 days in advance they would say they must be submitted (by) 60 days in advance of the desired date.

If they needed 5 years to work things out like Hppy mentioned, then they would say that.

If they have said that they need 30 days to meet requests then one might reasonably expect that a request made 30 days in advance satisfies that.

Or are you saying that she might have made the request too early??

 

Not sure how it is in other facilities, but in mine PTO is granted by first come first served except prime time. If we need 5 nurses to staff the unit, then 5 nurses must work that day. If there are 8 nurses total and 4 submit a PTO request for the same day, the 4th one to submit will be denied time off. So the sooner the request is submitted, the less likely to be denied. 

[amoLucia]

12 minutes ago, Rose_Queen said:

Not sure how it is in other facilities, but in mine PTO is granted by first come first served except prime time. If we need 5 nurses to staff the unit, then 5 nurses must work that day. If there are 8 nurses total and 4 submit a PTO request for the same day, the 4th one to submit will be denied time off. So the sooner the request is submitted, the less likely to be denied. 

At this point in some Union places, seniority would then take precedence.