Unfair Grading

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I am new to this forum. I recently encountered an incident that has left me quite disappointed. We had a head-to-toe assessment check off and med check off before we started our second semester for nursing. I made sure to prepare well to do well in both my head-to-toe check off that day as well as med check off.

During our head to toe assessment, my partner that went before me missed several objectives on head-to-toe assessment such as, introducing herself to the patient before verifying the patient information, declaring “lung sounds were clear in all field with no adventitious sounds”, she failed to check my lower back for pressure ulcer, she also failed to check cap refill on my lower leg, and she failed to ask about any blood seen during bowel movement, and she failed to check for normal skin tone whereas I missed asking about “clarity” for urine only.

Although I am happy for my partner, I felt it was unfair she made a 100 with several mistakes. I do admit I was rightly cut off 2 points for forgetting to ask about clarity in urine. I am very happy with my grade. However, I could not be at peace without communicating with the professor the process of the matter as I felt it was unfair. I am sure the instructor’s intention was not as such. After reaching out to my instructor to address my concerns respectfully, she outright told me to “stop being competitive…we nurses need to be supportive of each other”, and she also told me she made the “best clinical judgement” based on our “levels”.

I thanked her for her response and informed her that I and my partner were both in the same level (Level 2). I stated that I believed what I expressed was lost in translation and misunderstood. I never once thought of competition at all. I merely wanted the same fairness for everyone who is on the same level. I never meant to express what I expressed due to the difference in our grades at all. If it was about competition, I would have made sure to say something right then and there. I was absolutely not questioning her judgement. I sincerely apologized if my email ever came off that way. I was merely advocating for myself. We were both in the same level and while I caught several of her mistakes and none of them were accounted for and me being in the same level as her, I made one mistake (missing to ask for clarity in urine) and that was accounted for, I sincerely meant to only advocate for equality and fairness when we are in the same level.

We all work hard to do well in school and we all work alongside each other with our colleagues to help each other succeed. I have always made sure to help my colleagues in any way I can to help them do well in class. This was never about competition. Hence, I took the matter to the instructor rather than talking about it with my colleague who admitted her mistakes were overlooked. I simply praised her for doing well. 
However, instead of addressing my concerns, the instructor simply shut down the conversation by saying “you were not being disrespectful at all, we were just communicating… no worries”!

I responded to her email by letting her know that I am relieved to find that she understood my honest intention behind my email. I expressed to her that I sincerely hoped she will address the concerns I have raised. Her previous responses to my concerns were focused on deflecting it towards "competition". I humbly thanked her again for allowing me to express my thoughts and advocate for myself. Sadly, she has not responded to my concerns at all. 

Being aware of the hard work we all put in to making a good grade in our class while learning to be a competent nurse, I did not feel at peace encountering such unfairness in grading. I felt more at unease when my instructor focused on being defensive rather than addressing the concerns at hand. This is merely the beginning of the semester and she is my clinical instructor who is in charge of grading my competency during clinical hours. I merely wanted to be assured it was an honest mistake and I will not have to worry about such treatment towards me or anyone for that matter. 

Am I dwelling over it a tab bit too much? Should I just drop it and let it go? Please help guide me!

Thank you so much. 

Specializes in oncology.

I wrote one response and erased it. I am wondering if this is coming from the recent history of admission to nursing schools being  so competitive? Susie got in but needs extra help. On the other hand you can do a skill with only one view of the video.

Feel lucky that you picked up the physical assessment skill so well that you did it perfect.

I have worked with 2 students who were top of their class. One was a general surgical unit, and despite many explanations/assistances she could not safely accept a surgical patient and was let go. The other student went into an oncology floor and after chemo training, totally gave the wrong drug first. Let go but she's is still drifting around here.

You did very well on this skill. Would you like a break on a difficult skill with many variables? You will find out what I mean...

 

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1 hour ago, Honyebee said:

Say it short when you address issues with your instructor. You aren't in authority figure to correct it.

I'd say it this way if I ever care enough to email:  "Dear Educator, I'm hurt after my colleague revealed her grade to me. What important points were you looking for during the evaluation?"

Don't jump in accusing your instructor for being "unfair."  

My peer didn’t reveal her grade to me. We were graded right in front of the professor, right then and there. We went through our head to toe and as soon as we were done, we were handed our paper. She told my peer “you didn’t miss anything”, while she missed several objectives and I was told I “ missed a word and was cut off point for it”! I believe my concern keeps getting deflected towards “competition”. I do not care about the grade she made! I care that we are treated equally and fairly when we are being judged on our performance. So you are telling me, if you are witness to your peer missing several objective and your instructor didn’t care to point out even a single one of them, while she made sure to cut off several points for missing a word or two from the objective of yours, you would simply stay quiet? 

Specializes in oncology.
1 minute ago, RoseTh93 said:

So you are telling me, if you are witness to your peer missing several objective and your instructor didn’t care to point out even a single one of them, while she made sure to cut off several points for missing a word or two from the objective of yours, you would simply stay quiet?

yes

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7 hours ago, FiremedicMike said:

That's fine.  The last piece of advice I'll give you is this:

I implore you to abandon this line of thinking as soon as possible.  It is destructive, unhealthy, and will lead to a life full of anxiety and disappointment.  Worse yet, this mindset can very easily evolve into becoming a person who is constantly cutting people down, backstabbing, and doing whatever it takes to try to look better than everyone around you.

I cannot possibly stress this enough - the grades of your fellow students have ABSOLUTELY ZERO impact on your ability to be a nurse.  You need to internalize that.

OMG, I had no idea standing up for yourself when you clearly witness your instructor being partial can lead to backstabbing and doing what it takes to look better. The only competition I have is with myself to do better in all aspects of my life. I cannot stress this enough, it’s never and was never about the grade my peer made. It was me witnessing my instructor outright ignore all of my peers mistake and telling her “you didn’t miss anything”! Thats what I felt was unfair and partial. That’s all! I never ask my peers what they made in their exams or tests, I focus on mine. If anyone asks me, I let them know I did well. This was something I witnessed right In front of my mine, the partiality. Hence, I had a hard time comprehending why that was and how that came to be. 

Specializes in Customer service.
10 minutes ago, RoseTh93 said:

OMG, I had no idea standing up for yourself when you clearly witness your instructor being partial can lead to backstabbing and doing what it takes to look better. The only competition I have is with myself to do better in all aspects of my life. I cannot stress this enough, it’s never and was never about the grade my peer made. It was me witnessing my instructor outright ignore all of my peers mistake and telling her “you didn’t miss anything”! Thats what I felt was unfair and partial. That’s all! I never ask my peers what they made in their exams or tests, I focus on mine. If anyone asks me, I let them know I did well. This was something I witnessed right In front of my mine, the partiality. Hence, I had a hard time comprehending why that was and how that came to be. 

Did your peer say anything despite the fact that she saw it, too?  What does it tell you about your partner? 

 

It's impossible that your partner didn't know her own mistakes.

Just now, Honyebee said:

Did your peer say anything despite the fact that she saw it, too?  What does it tell you about your partner? 

 

She told me she was glad that the instructor didn’t catch any of her mistakes. I simply told her she did well. My query is not with my peer, she most definitely will not speak up and say “oh wow I know I missed several of those objectives, but thanks”! It tells me nothing about my partner, she tried her best and she passed, I wouldn’t want anything otherwise for her. 

Specializes in Customer service.
23 minutes ago, RoseTh93 said:

My peer didn’t reveal her grade to me. We were graded right in front of the professor, right then and there. We went through our head to toe and as soon as we were done, we were handed our paper. She told my peer “you didn’t miss anything”, while she missed several objectives and I was told I “ missed a word and was cut off point for it”! I believe my concern keeps getting deflected towards “competition”. I do not care about the grade she made! I care that we are treated equally and fairly when we are being judged on our performance. So you are telling me, if you are witness to your peer missing several objective and your instructor didn’t care to point out even a single one of them, while she made sure to cut off several points for missing a word or two from the objective of yours, you would simply stay quiet? 

 

Just now, RoseTh93 said:

She told me she was glad that the instructor didn’t catch any of her mistakes. I simply told her she did well. My query is not with my peer, she most definitely will not speak up and say “oh wow I know I missed several of those objectives, but thanks”! It tells me nothing about my partner, she tried her best and she passed, I wouldn’t want anything otherwise for her. 

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 Find a new partner. Don't worry about your teacher.

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1 minute ago, Honyebee said:

 

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 Find a new partner. Don't worry about your teacher.

We had to sign up for these check offs on “sign up genius”. Therefore, I had never seen the peer I was partnered up with before that day. I just worry my instructor will continue to be partial even when we all try our best to do well! That was the only reason why I reached out to her to make sure it was not deliberate and be assured nothing like that will happen again. 

Specializes in Customer service.

Integrity is everything. 

Specializes in ED RN, Firefighter/Paramedic.
38 minutes ago, RoseTh93 said:

OMG, I had no idea standing up for yourself when you clearly witness your instructor being partial can lead to backstabbing and doing what it takes to look better. The only competition I have is with myself to do better in all aspects of my life. I cannot stress this enough, it’s never and was never about the grade my peer made. It was me witnessing my instructor outright ignore all of my peers mistake and telling her “you didn’t miss anything”! Thats what I felt was unfair and partial. That’s all! I never ask my peers what they made in their exams or tests, I focus on mine. If anyone asks me, I let them know I did well. This was something I witnessed right In front of my mine, the partiality. Hence, I had a hard time comprehending why that was and how that came to be. 

If you are trying to better yourself, you ask the professor “what points should I focus on next time so that I can score better”, not “why did you give someone else xxx score when they obviously missed this and that and this”, and then not let it go when you don’t get the answer you want.

If you can’t see the difference, I don’t know what to say.

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Specializes in Customer service.

You'll meet people who will lie right in front of you,too. Don't let that spoil or shake your sanity. 

It happened to me. I didn't protest. That liar avoided me.

Specializes in Travel Nurse, All ICU specialties and ED.
13 hours ago, RoseTh93 said:

OMG, I had no idea standing up for yourself when you clearly witness your instructor being partial can lead to backstabbing and doing what it takes to look better. The only competition I have is with myself to do better in all aspects of my life. I cannot stress this enough, it’s never and was never about the grade my peer made. It was me witnessing my instructor outright ignore all of my peers mistake and telling her “you didn’t miss anything”! Thats what I felt was unfair and partial. That’s all! I never ask my peers what they made in their exams or tests, I focus on mine. If anyone asks me, I let them know I did well. This was something I witnessed right In front of my mine, the partiality. Hence, I had a hard time comprehending why that was and how that came to be. 

I agree with standing up for yourself in nursing, however it does not seem like your instructor did this out of malice. You were graded fairly as you were deducted the points you missed. Chalk it up to maybe your partner got lucky and the instructor spaced out or something and did not notice the errors. I know it is not "fair" but it also does not mean your instructor meant to be more critical during your assessment. For your own sanity try to go into this clinical objectively, not looking to see if there is any impartiality. It sounds like you are a hard worker and good student, and get the good grades you deserve. Best of luck to you ! 

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