Tourist visa or Immigrant visa????

NurseCubanitaRN2b, BSN, RN · Sep 26, 2008

Actually McCain has more a pro immigration policy, he was initally dished by his party for his pro immirgration stand.
Whoever gets elected in the US , there is a ecomonic mess, I would except an influx of Americans immigrating out, if you come to the US expect inflation and no jobs. Bottom line don't expect the USA to be your ticket out.
Both my kids studied abroad, they were not allowed to stay one day pass there visa expiration, my daughter's roommate asked for an extension ( this was Austraila) and she was escorted to the airport. I agree the USA should treat people who violate their Visa the same way, a quick escort to the airport. And PS, my kids were not allowed to work and had to verify that they had plenty of money.

The thing about McCain, is that he's looking for "cheap labor" for his cronies. Nurses aren't cheap, even the ones who come here and are working under the table aren't being paid cheap, yes it's cheap for a nurse, but not cheap as in medium salary for a certain area.

mjrage21 · Sep 26, 2008

hi! i have heard of people going to the states using a tourist visa to look for an employer and they end up working legally after a few months because they were able to obtain either a work permit or a working visa. these people i know of don't even have any work experience in the philippines but ended up finding jobs and working legally in the states.
i know someone who is in the states right now (tourist visa) and she was able to sign a contract with a hospital. however, the hospital's lawyer told her to come back here to the philippines because the congress is currently not issuing work permits until the end of the elections.

wow.is it really possible to be hired when your on tourist visa?what about the other replies that I got. They say even if you get hired by a hospital, you would still wait for the retrogression to lift up. is it true that im still gonna wait 3-5 years?

I have a plan and I rally need some comments on this.

When I will pass the IELTS,i'll apply for a visa screen, then apply for an immigrant visa (so to take the long but sure way). While waiting for the approval of the visa, "is it ok or possible for me to apply and work in New zealand for 2 years or so?I think it might be a good experience for me. And I will be able to help my family in our financial needs."

What do you think?

dhel28 · Sep 26, 2008

wow.is it really possible to be hired when your on tourist visa?what about the other replies that I got. They say even if you get hired by a hospital, you would still wait for the retrogression to lift up. is it true that im still gonna wait 3-5 years?
I have a plan and I rally need some comments on this.
When I will pass the IELTS,i'll apply for a visa screen, then apply for an immigrant visa (so to take the long but sure way). While waiting for the approval of the visa, "is it ok or possible for me to apply and work in New zealand for 2 years or so?I think it might be a good experience for me. And I will be able to help my family in our financial needs."
What do you think?

with the current retrogression, working in another country for 2-3 years is a good plan while waiting for US to open..who knows yyou might have more opportunities there and have a better life than here in the US. American dream is not the same as before.

Silverdragon102, BSN · Sep 26, 2008

There is no way you can adjust your visa and stay in the US, just isn't going to happen. What may have been done a couple of years ago can not be done now. For you to be able to adjust your visa they have to be current and they are far from current

allnurses Guide · Sep 28, 2008

I'm not singling a group out, and I'm not totally for closing the tourism in the US, but it should be restrict. Who says that a "tourist visa" is a right? It's not, it's a PRIVILEGE! You abuse that privilege and it should be taken away. I just don't think it's fair to the people who are trying to enter the country the right and legal way. Also, they're attempting to take jobs away from people who were educated here and who are 1. legal residents 2. US citizens, that can't even find a job because they're not hiring nurses. So even if they come here, most likely they wont find a job because even our US citizens are having problems finding jobs as nurses.
I totally agree that if someone has a family member who is dying should be allowed in the country to visit their dying family member. But do you see what I'm saying? There are people who are abusing the tourist visa and are intentionally using it for the wrong reasons and it needs to be stopped. Some of them are staying and have no intention of going back, so why should they have the privilege of the tourist visa? Immigration needs to monitor and check on ANY visa frequently to make sure that they're abiding by the conditions of the visa, and if they abuse it, and they're caught, 10 year ban or whatever it is.
I don't have a problem with foreign nurses coming over here and working, but, I think the jobs need to be given to our own people who 1. are qualified 2. are here legally first. Also, I'm finding that majority of the foreign educated nurses can't even chart properly. Their English is horrible, you can't understand them when they speak and their written skills are even worse. Not all are like this, because there are some very good nurses with a foreign education. That's one of the reasons why I believe that they need to make strict requirements for foreign grad nurses. Again, it's a privilege to work in this country as a foreign nurse, not a right.

You sound very opinionated about this, but perhaps a reality check is in order. There *is* a process to deport people who overstay visas, as well as 3-yr or 10-yr bans for doing so (depending on how long they overstay).

I am a "foreign" nurse, but my primary language is English, and I'm sure I both speak and write it as well, if not better, than your average American. The reason I obtained a visa to work in the US is that I have specialized skills which they cannot find in US staff. It benefits both my career and the US hospital which I work for.

Bottom line, ANY visa is only permission to attend the border and request permission to enter. I don't think anyone suggested it's a right and not a privilege - in fact, most people working legally in the US have a clear understanding of their rights and responsibilities.

Usually, the ones who go about it the wrong way, or take the risks involved in deportation to overstay, do so because of desperation and/or wanting to better their life from their home country. Some compassion is in order.

mjrage21 · Sep 29, 2008

i have relatives in california.. inflation, economic and financial crisis,, theyr all so true.. theres no telling when the black cloud's gna lift...

thank you all..

NurseCubanitaRN2b, BSN, RN · Oct 1, 2008

You sound very opinionated about this, but perhaps a reality check is in order. There *is* a process to deport people who overstay visas, as well as 3-yr or 10-yr bans for doing so (depending on how long they overstay).
I am a "foreign" nurse, but my primary language is English, and I'm sure I both speak and write it as well, if not better, than your average American. The reason I obtained a visa to work in the US is that I have specialized skills which they cannot find in US staff. It benefits both my career and the US hospital which I work for.
Bottom line, ANY visa is only permission to attend the border and request permission to enter. I don't think anyone suggested it's a right and not a privilege - in fact, most people working legally in the US have a clear understanding of their rights and responsibilities.
Usually, the ones who go about it the wrong way, or take the risks involved in deportation to overstay, do so because of desperation and/or wanting to better their life from their home country. Some compassion is in order.

I agree, with you 250%. The ones who come to this country and don't do it the right way take the risks and know what's involved. They come and in order to have a better life for themselves and their family. There is compassion for them, but at the sametime, I'm sorry if I feel that nursing jobs should go to citizens, & legal residents of this country first, and it is what it is. Now, the ones who come here out of desperation also are willing to take ANY job that is offered to them, not in particular nursing. See, the citizens of Cuba can flee the country and once they set foot on land, they're allowed to stay. They're not considered illegal, or undocumented, they're here legally. Yes, I'm a Cuban-American, but I was born to Cuban parents who entered this country during the Batista regime. I personally don't feel that the current situation regarding status of the Cubans fleeing the country is right, and I don't feel that it's fair to the others wanting to come over and they have to wait in order to do it the right way. I believe this is unfair to all of you who had to wait and had wait your turn in order to enter this country. Some of my people are fleeing for a better life, but I don't think it's fair how other groups have to wait while my people can basically just cut in line and automatically become legal. If they let one group of people do this, then they should all be allowed to do this. I believe in fairness, and that's all I'm saying.

Ginger's Mom, MSN, RN · Oct 2, 2008

I believe Cuban has a special circumstance, basically people risking their life for a better life in the USA. Since Cuba is geographically close Americans allow this.

NurseCubanitaRN2b, BSN, RN · Oct 2, 2008

You're correct Alex they do and it has to do with the whole Castro kicking out the American government because he didn't allow them to rule Cuba as Batista did. They will tell you it has to do because of the opression in Cuba, but let me tell you, the Chinese are more opressed and yet their people get sent back. Boils down to politics. I just want fairness, and that's why I made the comments I made.